United4191:

pele 10:

United4191:

Brittain 10:

United4191:

I like your optimism but imo they are sucking the club dry and have prevented us from competing for the very best talents.

We've always been able to make investments when we've really wanted to. The reason we compete with the Arabs is because they're the bloody royal family ffs! The Glazers are businessmen who've made a huge amount of money just not on that level. To say they're bleeding us dry is utter nonsense. SAF has said on countless occasions how we endeavour with our youngsters. Only when he's gone and the likes of Mourinho come on would big money be spent. Now let's think what would I prefer a £40 million potential flop or the greatest manager to have ever graced the game of football? Hmmmm

I'm not wanting us to be spending 30m here and there on any old player like City because i do like the way we do things. It's far more sustainable and better for the club but there comes a time where you just need to buy top quality and time after time Sir Alex is forced to say "no value in the market" because the money which would be available on transfers is going towards debt repayment. Ok sucking the club dry was a bit excessive but rite now it is as clear as day we need a combative midfielder and Martinez fits the bill perfectly but we won't sign him, we will look at players like Strootman instead which is a totally different level. I will hold back until the end of the transfer window because if they do bring in Hazard i will be hugely impressed but if our midfield is in no better state i will still maintain they are holding us back.

So if the club spends £50 or £60mil as they did last year but don´t buy a midfielder that is the Glazers fault even though the transfer targets are selected by SAF and Gill? Hmmm curious. Oh well somebody has to be blamed.

What are you talking about? I never said the Glazers chose our transfer targets all I'm saying is the debt they have burdened us with prevents us from targeting the players we should be. We spend far less than our rivals each year and it is only the work of Sir Alex who has managed to cover this up. And no need to be stuck up about it everyone knows it's the truth all i want to see is us challenging for the top talents since we are the biggest club in the world.

SAF will and has always picked the tranfer targets and I have never heard eitther David Gill or SAF complain there was no money for one of SAFs targets.

So because you and some others don´t think the right players are being brought in I think you´re blaming the wrong people for that. If you want to blame someone blame SAF though I think you are seriously mistaken there as well.

SAF has and always will build winning squads with a mixture of experience, youth, maybe a couple of highpriced big names and a bunch of hardworking overachievers that is SAFs way.

SAF doesn´t buy a great team he builds it. Manchester United doesn´t buy legends they make them.

I hope the rumour about Malcom Glazer had died is true. Can't wait for the Glazers to fk off from the club

xSTONEYx187x:

I'll never has any respect them. The actual average transfer per season is around £16 million, less than Sunderland and various other clubs. IF Hazard signs, well then I won't be thanking them because they are just doing what United should be doing, simple.

I agree, they can sod off for all I care

Brittain 10:

i.c.e:

Brittain 10:

I'm grateful their cash has gone to improving our team

their money? why are we in serious debt then if its their money? why does money from a club that had no debt, go into servicing debt, if its their money o.0

Brittain 10:

Some of you guys need to maintain your optimism.

some of u guys need to WAKE UP!

The reason there's debt is because of the loan they took out to buy us. Why you even bring it up I don't know because it is NOT an issue, yes it is a lot of money but flotation on the Singapore stock market as planned will raise £625 million, a significant deal more than the debt which is around £400 million I believe. At no point has the debt affected our spending regardless of what you think. Yes, some money from sales has contributed to paying it off, this hasn't affected the budget as we didn't intend to spend that money in the first place. Now stop having such a downer about the Glazers because you'll probably be made to eat your own words when top players do come in.

How is it not an issue? Who do you think are the ones paying off that debt eh? And as for the flotation thing, well again whose to say whatever they make is going to go on the debt. Your speculating there. As for spending, again speculation. You can say the same to those who choose to believe the money isnt there too i suppose, but looking at the facts for just a minute, tell me previously to the glazers, when did the word "value" ever come into a topic of conversation eh. Did it come into it when we broke transfer records for the likes of cole, keano, rio and veron. Even ruud for £19m, on a man who'd broken his leg the previous year, was a heck of a gamble. But at the end of the day, we wanted him, so we got him. As for this transfer window? Well lets just wait and see. I think you are missing the point though if you think this "glazer hate" is all down to lack of £50m signings. You should look at what the real issues are here, because thats only scratching the surface im afraid.

Money is no issue. The Glazers make over 800 million in mall profits even in this economy, along with an upfront and off the top split with the other NFL teams on TV revenues in the billions, plus their regular profits for the Buccaneers, and also the money they make with the Manchester United. If the salaries were really the issue then how come the Glazers consistently pay NFL players much more than what Man CIty pays in salaries in a season but for only 16 games. The Glazers believe youth is the key to sustainable success and if their coach believes that then they give them the time to develop. If the coach prefers proven atheletes, then they give them the money but a much shorter leash. At Manchester United their has never been a coaching change in their time of ownership. I have seen them change their spending habits based on their coaches. In the NFL the Buccaneers had a bad season, so they have spent more money than any other organization, over a 100 million dollars in guaranteed money to players. This is based on the new coaches philosophy to win now. The Glazers know they need trophies to expand the Manchester United brand and to really make the big profits. They will buy players this year and SAF willl not let City get the upperhand at the end of his legacy. David Gill and SAF impose their own transfer regulations, not the Glazers. Watch at least a few big names are coming to put the other clubs back in their place!

Brittain 10:

The reason there's debt is because of the loan they took out to buy us

... and who is paying this loan back?

Brittain 10:

you'll probably be made to eat your own words when top players do come in.

mmm... probably...unlikely... but probably. let's wait and see...

I have been a fan of the Buccaneers in Tampa my whole life and have followed Manchester United since before the Glazer takeover. It can be very difficult to keep faith in then at times because they belive in creating a youth core in sports organizations, which can mean transition years. Any time a coach askes for the money though they seem to get it. If the team starts to head in the wrong direction, they will re- invest. For example the Buccaneers in the NFL had a horrible year last season. The Glazers have splashed over a 100 million dollars in guaranteed money to players since. I believe you will see something similar this year on the Manchester United transfer front. The Glazers have to realize that if the team doesn't win trophies that they will lose much more money than what they spend on new players. The fact of the matter is that salaries that they are competing with aren't more than what they consistently pay players in the NFL. It is not the money that hold things up, it's coaching philosophy and transfer regulations SAF/Gill impose on themselves. Seriously, the economic market is terrible and the Glazers still profit over 800 million a year in just their mall profits. They split billions a year in TV revenues with the other NFL teams right off the top, every season and up front. Then they make the tons of money that United produce. I don't care who they are competing with they can afford it. Manchester United will get some big names this transfer window, because they don't have a choice.

I've said it before and i'll say it again....HALF A BILLION POUNDS has left this football club as a result of those leeches getting their debt ridden hands on Manchester United.

I couldnt give a sh1t what they do in the transfer market, not now, not ever. MUFC should be able to afford any player they like given their worldwide fan base, the revenues they generate and the pulling power of the club...but they cant because those parasites are masters at doing just enough to stay in control.

RESPECT MY A.R.SE.

It is no use spending money on players who aren't going to take us to the next level, leaving us with empty pockets when the ones who will do just that become available. Hazard is a player who can elevate us, we have the money to make it happen and that is what we are trying to do.

i.c.e:

Brittain 10:

I'm grateful their cash has gone to improving our team

their money? why are we in serious debt then if its their money? why does money from a club that had no debt, go into servicing debt, if its their money o.0

Brittain 10:

Some of you guys need to maintain your optimism.

some of u guys need to WAKE UP!

The reason there's debt is because of the loan they took out to buy us. Why you even bring it up I don't know because it is NOT an issue, yes it is a lot of money but flotation on the Singapore stock market as planned will raise £625 million, a significant deal more than the debt which is around £400 million I believe. At no point has the debt affected our spending regardless of what you think. Yes, some money from sales has contributed to paying it off, this hasn't affected the budget as we didn't intend to spend that money in the first place. Now stop having such a downer about the Glazers because you'll probably be made to eat your own words when top players do come in.

pele 10:

United4191:

Brittain 10:

United4191:

I like your optimism but imo they are sucking the club dry and have prevented us from competing for the very best talents.

We've always been able to make investments when we've really wanted to. The reason we compete with the Arabs is because they're the bloody royal family ffs! The Glazers are businessmen who've made a huge amount of money just not on that level. To say they're bleeding us dry is utter nonsense. SAF has said on countless occasions how we endeavour with our youngsters. Only when he's gone and the likes of Mourinho come on would big money be spent. Now let's think what would I prefer a £40 million potential flop or the greatest manager to have ever graced the game of football? Hmmmm

I'm not wanting us to be spending 30m here and there on any old player like City because i do like the way we do things. It's far more sustainable and better for the club but there comes a time where you just need to buy top quality and time after time Sir Alex is forced to say "no value in the market" because the money which would be available on transfers is going towards debt repayment. Ok sucking the club dry was a bit excessive but rite now it is as clear as day we need a combative midfielder and Martinez fits the bill perfectly but we won't sign him, we will look at players like Strootman instead which is a totally different level. I will hold back until the end of the transfer window because if they do bring in Hazard i will be hugely impressed but if our midfield is in no better state i will still maintain they are holding us back.

So if the club spends £50 or £60mil as they did last year but don´t buy a midfielder that is the Glazers fault even though the transfer targets are selected by SAF and Gill? Hmmm curious. Oh well somebody has to be blamed.

What are you talking about? I never said the Glazers chose our transfer targets all I'm saying is the debt they have burdened us with prevents us from targeting the players we should be. We spend far less than our rivals each year and it is only the work of Sir Alex who has managed to cover this up. And no need to be stuck up about it everyone knows it's the truth all i want to see is us challenging for the top talents since we are the biggest club in the world.

LOL, the glazers are grateful their debt went to the club and are profits in their pockets, do they even like football?

Brittain 10:

I'm grateful their cash has gone to improving our team

their money? why are we in serious debt then if its their money? why does money from a club that had no debt, go into servicing debt, if its their money o.0

Brittain 10:

Some of you guys need to maintain your optimism.

some of u guys need to WAKE UP!

volcom:

seriously they deserve it at this moment in time....theres alot of hate and they we cant spend on the big names and fergie always uses excuses...........and we cant attract the top players.

well us in for hazard and consistently reported....us leading for hazard, and in some cases....having got hazard unofficially.........it kinda proves the moaners wrong.

before you have a swipe at me....i was one of the moaners.

i used to think fergies....oh the market is overinflated excuses etc were because we didnt have much money.

i think an averaged 50m per summer proves that case wrong. and i think the talks and close signings of hazard AND kagawa...really prove we CAN attract big names and CAN spend big still in hazards case.

we are right now competing with chelsea and city for a player.

bet you never ever thought youd hear that?

but yes respectively it is more than just money..........which leads me to think.....RESPECT to hazard. he hasnt just opted for the big pay deal. he is considering options or perhaps has decided now.

well id like to say as much as i hate the ownership of the glazers, that they are doing a good job and reducing the debt now and making up for their woes........and for proving we can still go for the big names

when ferguson says the market has no value....then it really is true. we wont pay over the odds for players like the rest of europes elite. and that is what sets us APART from them. we do things the right way.

man utd

Respect for the glazers. Why? Because we might possibly end up winning the race for hazard? So forgetting the crippling levels of debt and the money that exits this club on a daily basis, all it takes is reported interested in a nice big name player, and all thats forgotten eh. The glazers allow us to SPEND OUR OWN MONEY on a player of our choice, and thats warrants praise. Good lord.

pele 10:

United4191:

Brittain 10:

United4191:

I like your optimism but imo they are sucking the club dry and have prevented us from competing for the very best talents.

We've always been able to make investments when we've really wanted to. The reason we compete with the Arabs is because they're the bloody royal family ffs! The Glazers are businessmen who've made a huge amount of money just not on that level. To say they're bleeding us dry is utter nonsense. SAF has said on countless occasions how we endeavour with our youngsters. Only when he's gone and the likes of Mourinho come on would big money be spent. Now let's think what would I prefer a £40 million potential flop or the greatest manager to have ever graced the game of football? Hmmmm

I'm not wanting us to be spending 30m here and there on any old player like City because i do like the way we do things. It's far more sustainable and better for the club but there comes a time where you just need to buy top quality and time after time Sir Alex is forced to say "no value in the market" because the money which would be available on transfers is going towards debt repayment. Ok sucking the club dry was a bit excessive but rite now it is as clear as day we need a combative midfielder and Martinez fits the bill perfectly but we won't sign him, we will look at players like Strootman instead which is a totally different level. I will hold back until the end of the transfer window because if they do bring in Hazard i will be hugely impressed but if our midfield is in no better state i will still maintain they are holding us back.

So if the club spends £50 or £60mil as they did last year but don´t buy a midfielder that is the Glazers fault even though the transfer targets are selected by SAF and Gill? Hmmm curious. Oh well somebody has to be blamed.

Exactly. This isn't Chelsea. Our owners do not choose the players the manager does. SAF enticed Scholes back and that solved one problem for the time being. Why people blame the Glazers is beyond me. The only problem I have with them is that they never seem to attend any games, which is disappointing but other than that I'm grateful their cash has gone to improving our team. What's more people have a dig about last years signings, they were all excellent. One of the most promising young defenders this country will have that has superb versatility, a phenomenally talented keeper who will go on to be one of the best, and someone excellent with set pieces. Some of you guys need to maintain your optimism.