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  • 26 May 2012 12:56 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    MUFC_wales:
    I hope this is true but im not sure how both him and Hazard will work (IF we get them both) Hazard has said where he goes depends on the position he plays, he then said he's happy to play for Belgium cause he can play in his best position, as a number 10 behind the strikers. If rumours are true and fergie managed to persuade him to join us by saying he'll be the maun focus along with Rooney of the team then I'm sure he has probably promised Hazard the role behind the striker. This is where I struggle to see how we will get both cause that is Kagawa's position also, will we risk making 1 of them unhappy by playing them out of postion? Can kagawa play on the wing?
    Kagawa can play from the wing if you played three behind a lone striker (Rooney). There's also plenty of games in total so no reason why they'd have to play in every game together. We still have Scholes, Carrick, Cleverly, Fletcher and Giggs who will play in rotation in CM/CAM (I'm assuming Anderson is going to leave). As for squad #, if he comes I think he'll be given the #7; we really do need someone in that shirt who can play more often that not.
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  • 26 May 2012 12:41 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    bensmith130:
    According to the Bild newspaper we have submitted a better offer for Shinji Kagawa. Trying to get a link at the moment guys but the story has only just been released.

    These guys were the first to report our interest in Kagawa, so they are pretty reliable. Kicker closely followed after.

    Think this one is just a matter of time guys.

    I honestly think its a matter of days :) I already consider him our player
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  • 25 May 2012 5:22 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    We should just pay what they want and have done with it. Or we can always miss out on another player.
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  • 25 May 2012 4:48 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    hargreavesfan:
    The whole deal is done. I guess the both clubs will meet at a pricetag between 20-23 million. About 20 million is what you get today for a world class player with 1 year contract left (see Neuer). Coach Klopp has still enough quality with Götze, Kuba and Marco Reuss so I dont think they'll make it that hard to get him. Timing is perfect for him because United is not european high class at the moment, so he should get enough play time to show, what he is able to.
    The deal is not done.Why say its done when it isnt?
    Don`t hate on my opinion!
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  • 25 May 2012 4:39 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    Walters_14_MuFc:
    Unless we sell either Young, Nani or Valencia, I can't see SAF getting both, Hazard and Kagawa.
    Don't see why when the Hazard & Kagawa are centre midfield players, attacking at that. Scholes & Giggs last season, Ando, Cleverly always injured Fletcher may not return. Would be daft to sell a winger IMO
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  • 25 May 2012 4:34 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    Double signings of both Eden Hazard (£30m) and Shinji Kagawa (£15m).....

    DROOLS UNCONTROLLABLY..

    PAUL SCHOLES Im not a man of many words but I can honestly say playing football is all I ever wanted to do
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  • 25 May 2012 3:07 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    Phronesis:
    MUFC_wales:
    bensmith130:
    MUFC_wales:
    I hope this is true but im not sure how both him and Hazard will work (IF we get them both) Hazard has said where he goes depends on the position he plays, he then said he's happy to play for Belgium cause he can play in his best position, as a number 10 behind the strikers. If rumours are true and fergie managed to persuade him to join us by saying he'll be the maun focus along with Rooney of the team then I'm sure he has probably promised Hazard the role behind the striker. This is where I struggle to see how we will get both cause that is Kagawa's position also, will we risk making 1 of them unhappy by playing them out of postion? Can kagawa play on the wing?
    Personally I would think that Rooney, Kagawa and Hazard would all float in attack and interchange with each other. I don't see a problem with all 3 of them playing high up the pitch. Also how good would our counter attack be!!
    But then that could upset the likes of Valencia, Nani, Young, Welbeck and Hernandez as they surely wouldn't get as much games as their ability deserves. Lol what a great position this is for us to be in. Hopefully Fergie has something in mind
    sorry but what do you expect fergie to have in mind than lies. Tell of how this will make you as a player happy if you are lied to. Berba said what fergie told him was diff from what happened, Torres said thesame thing in chelsea. Coaches are not God that has the perfect solution, there is no way he will keep all those guys happy and seriously i will be gutted if any of Nani, Valencia, young is asked to leave or not getting enough game time. Those guys are the best wingers in the league and it was the midfield that was giving them lot of pressure
    Players have to be flexible in being capable in playing in numerous positions, we saw that this season with Jones, Smalling, Valenica and Carrick. Utd, and other top teams, have to be able to cope with injuries, the sheer number of games, not to mention players individual form. Hazard will have to accept that whichever club he joins he won't play every week.
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  • 25 May 2012 3:06 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    xSTONEYx187x:
    mullytheremix:
    me23:
    Kagawa costs so little,why dont United just pay the asking price and get the deal wrapped up instead of submitting embarrassing offers and risk having other clubs come for him.
    My thoughts exactly if we are offering 17 million euros why not just go to the 20 that Dortmund want and get this deal done, Bild are also saying Real Madrid want Kagaw***
    I'm sure he'll look at what happened to Nuri Sahin before moving to them. One of the best young players in world, and his development as been stunted because of that move. He'll be discarded like a piece of meant if Madrid feel like it.
    I agree with you 100% on what your saying, the problem comes if Madrid offer more then what they want for instance then we are going to have to go above that, so its gonna end up costing more then what they want , i just feel its best to say heres your 20 million euros so they accept it then its down to Kagawa who im sure will sign for us. i cant see why Madrid would even need him
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  • 25 May 2012 3:05 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    The whole deal is done. I guess the both clubs will meet at a pricetag between 20-23 million. About 20 million is what you get today for a world class player with 1 year contract left (see Neuer). Coach Klopp has still enough quality with Götze, Kuba and Marco Reuss so I dont think they'll make it that hard to get him. Timing is perfect for him because United is not european high class at the moment, so he should get enough play time to show, what he is able to.
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  • 25 May 2012 3:02 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    Unless we sell either Young, Nani or Valencia, I can't see SAF getting both, Hazard and Kagawa.
    LOVE YOU SIR ALEX!!
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  • 25 May 2012 2:59 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    mullytheremix:
    me23:
    Kagawa costs so little,why dont United just pay the asking price and get the deal wrapped up instead of submitting embarrassing offers and risk having other clubs come for him.
    My thoughts exactly if we are offering 17 million euros why not just go to the 20 that Dortmund want and get this deal done, Bild are also saying Real Madrid want Kagaw***
    I'm sure he'll look at what happened to Nuri Sahin before moving to them. One of the best young players in world, and his development as been stunted because of that move. He'll be discarded like a piece of meant if Madrid feel like it.
    In De Gea I Trust
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  • 25 May 2012 2:41 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    me23:
    Kagawa costs so little,why dont United just pay the asking price and get the deal wrapped up instead of submitting embarrassing offers and risk having other clubs come for him.
    My thoughts exactly if we are offering 17 million euros why not just go to the 20 that Dortmund want and get this deal done, Bild are also saying Real Madrid want Kagaw***
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  • 25 May 2012 2:14 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    MUFC_wales:
    bensmith130:
    MUFC_wales:
    I hope this is true but im not sure how both him and Hazard will work (IF we get them both) Hazard has said where he goes depends on the position he plays, he then said he's happy to play for Belgium cause he can play in his best position, as a number 10 behind the strikers. If rumours are true and fergie managed to persuade him to join us by saying he'll be the maun focus along with Rooney of the team then I'm sure he has probably promised Hazard the role behind the striker. This is where I struggle to see how we will get both cause that is Kagawa's position also, will we risk making 1 of them unhappy by playing them out of postion? Can kagawa play on the wing?
    Personally I would think that Rooney, Kagawa and Hazard would all float in attack and interchange with each other. I don't see a problem with all 3 of them playing high up the pitch. Also how good would our counter attack be!!
    But then that could upset the likes of Valencia, Nani, Young, Welbeck and Hernandez as they surely wouldn't get as much games as their ability deserves. Lol what a great position this is for us to be in. Hopefully Fergie has something in mind
    sorry but what do you expect fergie to have in mind than lies. Tell of how this will make you as a player happy if you are lied to. Berba said what fergie told him was diff from what happened, Torres said thesame thing in chelsea. Coaches are not God that has the perfect solution, there is no way he will keep all those guys happy and seriously i will be gutted if any of Nani, Valencia, young is asked to leave or not getting enough game time. Those guys are the best wingers in the league and it was the midfield that was giving them lot of pressure
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  • 25 May 2012 1:55 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    lewis.No.9:
    If Nani is leaving then so should Anderson....Nani has done far more for us then Ando has...I would replace Ando with Kagawa......or maybe replace him with Boateng like reports suggest and just add. Anderson, Nani, Fletcher (highly likely) and Pogba leave - In come Kagawa, Hazard, and Boateng I would take that considering the 3 incoming players injury record between them is far better
    Couldn't agree more with you here. However I think it could be more about the financial element. Nani could fetch 20-25 million which would recoup a large chunk of any spending carried out this summer. Anderson would get you 10 million if you're lucky.
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  • 25 May 2012 1:37 PM

    Re: According to Bild United have submitted new offer for Kagaw***

    If we can only get one of Kagawa or Hazard I would rather have Kagawa. He is exactly what we need in the middle and doesn't cost too much. He would be a great signing.

    Hazard would make it an epic summer!!

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