forevergiggs:

Stooler:

forevergiggs:

Stooler:

England to win without a doubt. Unless your scot, Taff or a fenion. England comes first as us against the rest of Europe in particular who hate us. Was giving evra abuse at the match as I'm English. Dirty he is when playing for France

What about a N. Ireland Prod?

I am half northern Irish so if you qualified without doubt I'd be cheering you on.

Good answer man,lol not that we will be qualifying for a major finals for a long time, Spain 82 is as good as it gets for us, got more chance than the Taffs though.

Whoah.... We Welsh were doing well under Gary Speed, God rest his soul.

But your right, not much chance of Wales winning anything in my lifetime. Not even if I was immortal!

Easiest question ever. United Treble.

Then again, I am half Welsh!

Stooler:

England to win without a doubt. Unless your scot, Taff or a fenion. England comes first as us against the rest of Europe in particular who hate us. Was giving evra abuse at the match as I'm English. Dirty he is when playing for France

You do know Fenian, although a sectarian term with regards to Irishmen and/or people with a Catholic background, is derived from the legendary warriors of Ireland in the 2nd and 3rd centruies, so yeah, it's more of an outstanding compliment to anyone with a bit knowledge ..... Just thought I'd put that out there before you spout anymore of your bigotry, unlike "petrol bombers", the term you used in another thread.

How this ignorant bigot hasn't being banned yet is astonishing.

manu wr10:

The Mag1cian:

tommythecat:

The Mag1cian:

Quite simple really, what would you rather? Would you rather England won Euro 2012 and the World Cup in Brazil, or would you rather United won the treble next season?

Obviously, this is a Manchester United fan forum, but I'm interested to hear the answers.

I, for one, am torn slightly. I'm United through and through, but I have never seen England even go close at a major tournament. The sad thing is, the best England manager of my lifetime has been Sven. So if the national team won both tournaments, I think I'd be in sheer delirium, as would everyone else in the country.

But, on the other hand, I was too young to fully appreciate 1999, and I'd love to see that happen again.

It's likely that most of you will say United, so lets spice it up: You're in the crowd when the trophies are won. Would you rather be there when England finally ended 46 years of hurt, or would you rather see United lift all 3 of club football's biggest prizes?

Haha...I'm Australian.

Would you rather Australia won the world cup than United won the treble then?

Hah im in the same boat but certainly rather see united win the treble. There is no chance in my lifetime with how australia plays will we ever win the world cup lol.

Isn't Rhain Davis Australian? I guess that's a start!

Stooler:

forevergiggs:

Stooler:

England to win without a doubt. Unless your scot, Taff or a fenion. England comes first as us against the rest of Europe in particular who hate us. Was giving evra abuse at the match as I'm English. Dirty he is when playing for France

What about a N. Ireland Prod?

I am half northern Irish so if you qualified without doubt I'd be cheering you on.

Good answer man,lol not that we will be qualifying for a major finals for a long time, Spain 82 is as good as it gets for us, got more chance than the Taffs though.

volcom:

england is part of the uk........PART OF.........england is not THE uk. thats the problem for me.

Well my Irish Friend in case you didn't know but Ireland IN NOT part of the UK. hence why Ireland don't get a mention yet we do have to put up with your st patrick's day celebrations. in a country where Ireland are not part of it. maybe you could tell me how that works? moving to the original subject. for me I would take country over club everyday. but a cup double for england will never happen in my lifetime.

forevergiggs:

Stooler:

England to win without a doubt. Unless your scot, Taff or a fenion. England comes first as us against the rest of Europe in particular who hate us. Was giving evra abuse at the match as I'm English. Dirty he is when playing for France

What about a N. Ireland Prod?

I am half northern Irish so if you qualified without doubt I'd be cheering you on.

Stooler:

England to win without a doubt. Unless your scot, Taff or a fenion. England comes first as us against the rest of Europe in particular who hate us. Was giving evra abuse at the match as I'm English. Dirty he is when playing for France

What about a N. Ireland Prod?

rob4united:

For me no competition, I would rather see United pick up the Charity Sheild than see all the home nations win the World Cup, Confederation Cup, Euro's or whatever for the next 100 years.

I've harped on about this a few times, International football is dead. Admit or not, but fans 'go with the flow' when it comes to it. The last International tournament that was played with any real passion, flair or attacking intent was the USA 94, ever since then the 'club game' has become too strong finiancially. Players, despite what they say don't give a toss about their national sides. Perhaps not every player, but as in all social phenemena there will be general trends and as far as professional footballers go that's it.

The fans aren't much better, and bar stating the obvious the English support England FC to be English, the Irish support Ireland FC to be Irish, American's support America FC and etc, etc, etc, but when the sides do poorly they are criticsed hysterically (see every competition England participated in post 1968). It should be the same for the fans as it is the players, it should be a honour to support your country, there should be no expectations and it should be primarily based on fun; which for a long time it hasn't been.

I'll admit my attitude towrads international football has been poor ever since I started working for them, but I can tell you that any cobnference or training session or workshops I've been too and the general view is the International game is in trouble.

Anyway, good luck to England FC tonight and hard luck too Ireland FC last night.

Are you stoke on Trent?

England to win without a doubt. Unless your scot, Taff or a fenion. England comes first as us against the rest of Europe in particular who hate us. Was giving evra abuse at the match as I'm English. Dirty he is when playing for France

England winning WC & Euros is a once in a lifetime moment, something every English football fan dreams of. Whereas the Treble, that can happen any year. So for me England > United.

England above everything, including Utd!

Cleverbeck.:

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Yeah, we did get off the thread a little bit, always trust the Irish to f@ck things up, lol.

For me no competition, I would rather see United pick up the Charity Sheild than see all the home nations win the World Cup, Confederation Cup, Euro's or whatever for the next 100 years.

I've harped on about this a few times, International football is dead. Admit or not, but fans 'go with the flow' when it comes to it. The last International tournament that was played with any real passion, flair or attacking intent was the USA 94, ever since then the 'club game' has become too strong finiancially. Players, despite what they say don't give a toss about their national sides. Perhaps not every player, but as in all social phenemena there will be general trends and as far as professional footballers go that's it.

The fans aren't much better, and bar stating the obvious the English support England FC to be English, the Irish support Ireland FC to be Irish, American's support America FC and etc, etc, etc, but when the sides do poorly they are criticsed hysterically (see every competition England participated in post 1968). It should be the same for the fans as it is the players, it should be a honour to support your country, there should be no expectations and it should be primarily based on fun; which for a long time it hasn't been.

I'll admit my attitude towrads international football has been poor ever since I started working for them, but I can tell you that any cobnference or training session or workshops I've been too and the general view is the International game is in trouble.

Anyway, good luck to England FC tonight and hard luck too Ireland FC last night.

volcom:

Moyesy:

volcom:

i dont mind it now as they are in the tournament....what im saying is to do what they did right on the opening of the euros is disrespectful.........poland is the host and was playing and one of the first things they open the show with is england.......

I get this part, having said that, the majority of viewers would prefer them to talk about England than Poland. Get the studio talking about Poland vs Greece for an hour before kick off would hardly be must watch TV, would it? (Talking about the masses, not individuals).

volcom:

it was being broadcasted worldwide and england need to realise they are PART OF the uk........not THE uk.

I dont get this bit though. I dont understand what you mean. Why would we be talking about N.I. or Wales or Scotland? Their failed qualification attempts?

well yea i can agree fair enough talk about them through the euros through the entire uk all you want....fair enough as they are the only reps as scot and wales etc arent in it.

it just annoys me as even when other uk teams are involved england still get the front line and this backs my point in saying they always have to be the centre of attention, the dominant force and its proved through history lol! hence the uk! it just annoys me that, even tho i live in ireland, ever since i was born....all i ever hear about is england ...........then i think it jus finally snapped. i expected england to be mentioned on the first match of the euros. but i also expected to turn the tv on, watch poland and greece open the tournament with them discussing each team and its line up as is ALWAYS done in competitions but instead they did with england what they should have done with poland and greece.

I would love the BBC and ITV to go through the squads of the players. Pick out some key players, go though their qualification, see where their strengths are, and their weeknesses, some proper analysis.

It wouldnt entertain the masses though.