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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:58 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    Think we are done with the shopping unfortunately.Maybe a new left back if we are lucky but that will be it.

    Kagawa,Powell and Baines,3 good signings but we need a CM too and if we dont buy a quality one,i cant see us challenge for both PL and CL.

    Don`t hate on my opinion!
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:54 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    Captain Marvel No.7:
    Would love us to get Modric too but we dont pay big money for players anymore.
    Well didnt we offer 35 mill for Hazard? and didnt we offer similar for Sneijder last season?
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:51 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    lewis.No.9:
    Sneijder played in the modric role for Holland and was Immense......his age and maturity means he is now going to be a CM. BUT I would love M'Vila here so :)
    Sneijder played in his no.10 role vs Denmark, he is nothing like Modric imo, not suited to CM.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:46 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    Akj22:
    think saf will bring in some1 we havent thought of.
    This. We definitely need a left back! Evra has by far the most playing time! Don't forget he is 31 now, so he can't play every game! Besides, Fabio will be loaned out and Fryers just isn't ready for the 1st team yet
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:46 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    Hopefully a CM and LB.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:45 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    matt sleet:
    Captain Marvel No.7:
    lewis.No.9:
    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
    How is he better than Evra? Well for me the fact that he can defend tells me he's better than Evra. His positional play is better, he doesnt neglect his defensive duties and as you say his ability from a dead ball situation would give United another option at free kicks.

    What do you define as United quality? Someone who cant defend, is caught out of position, doesnt score any goals, rarely assists any goals and makes lots of mistakes? That is Evra all over and yet you deem him as United quality?

    Of course these stories linking us with Baines are rumours, but we are linked with loads of players day in day out. Thats what transfer speculation is for, to talk about prospective transfers, not to prove which rumours have substance and which dont.

    I think evra is obviously on the decline. But is baines the best option for us? 15m for a lb who is 28 and who will step down for fabio or fryers in a couple of seasons seems a lot. ild rather spend 18m on a woldclass lb who will make that position his own, then keep the best of fryers or rabio after there loans. Or keep evra fas first choice for one more season , with fryers as back up and spend the 15m on the midfield
    This is my only worry with baines, if evra is going then I would say get him but if not then why bother, let fryers have a good crack at it this season and see how fabio developed on loan
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:44 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    matt sleet:
    Captain Marvel No.7:
    lewis.No.9:
    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
    How is he better than Evra? Well for me the fact that he can defend tells me he's better than Evra. His positional play is better, he doesnt neglect his defensive duties and as you say his ability from a dead ball situation would give United another option at free kicks.

    What do you define as United quality? Someone who cant defend, is caught out of position, doesnt score any goals, rarely assists any goals and makes lots of mistakes? That is Evra all over and yet you deem him as United quality?

    Of course these stories linking us with Baines are rumours, but we are linked with loads of players day in day out. Thats what transfer speculation is for, to talk about prospective transfers, not to prove which rumours have substance and which dont.

    I think evra is obviously on the decline. But is baines the best option for us? 15m for a lb who is 28 and who will step down for fabio or fryers in a couple of seasons seems a lot. ild rather spend 18m on a woldclass lb who will make that position his own, then keep the best of fryers or rabio after there loans. Or keep evra fas first choice for one more season , with fryers as back up and spend the 15m on the midfield
    Fair do's i can go with that, I see where you are coming from. Thing is if we buy Baines, he's English, used to the Premier League, he slots straight in and hits the ground running. No bedding in period like Vidic and Evra got, he's used to the demands of the English game and knows whats required.

    £15m is buying pretty much the finished article and if people think thats steep for someone in the peak of their career then they need to ask themselves what they are getting for that money.

    As for Fabio, he wont make it at United imo and Fryers hasnt done anything yet to suggest he could become United's long term Left Back. All ifs and maybes but i wouldnt mind seeing Baines here as our new LB, he'd be a excellent signing for United if you ask me,

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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:35 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    Captain Marvel No.7:
    lewis.No.9:
    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
    How is he better than Evra? Well for me the fact that he can defend tells me he's better than Evra. His positional play is better, he doesnt neglect his defensive duties and as you say his ability from a dead ball situation would give United another option at free kicks.

    What do you define as United quality? Someone who cant defend, is caught out of position, doesnt score any goals, rarely assists any goals and makes lots of mistakes? That is Evra all over and yet you deem him as United quality?

    Of course these stories linking us with Baines are rumours, but we are linked with loads of players day in day out. Thats what transfer speculation is for, to talk about prospective transfers, not to prove which rumours have substance and which dont.

    I think evra is obviously on the decline. But is baines the best option for us? 15m for a lb who is 28 and who will step down for fabio or fryers in a couple of seasons seems a lot. ild rather spend 18m on a woldclass lb who will make that position his own, then keep the best of fryers or rabio after there loans. Or keep evra fas first choice for one more season , with fryers as back up and spend the 15m on the midfield
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:31 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    lewis.No.9:
    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
    How is he better than Evra? Well for me the fact that he can defend tells me he's better than Evra. His positional play is better, he doesnt neglect his defensive duties and as you say his ability from a dead ball situation would give United another option at free kicks.

    What do you define as United quality? Someone who cant defend, is caught out of position, doesnt score any goals, rarely assists any goals and makes lots of mistakes? That is Evra all over and yet you deem him as United quality?

    Of course these stories linking us with Baines are rumours, but we are linked with loads of players day in day out. Thats what transfer speculation is for, to talk about prospective transfers, not to prove which rumours have substance and which dont.

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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:26 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    Barry Turner:
    Think that is us done for the summer to be honest
    Do you really think so? I think 2 more players probably, one will be totally unexpected in my opinion.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:25 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    lewis.No.9:
    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
    lewis.No.9:
    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
    Fact is he is more defensively solid than Evra and Evra needs someone to relieve some of the pressure, Evra is now 31 and he can't be playing 60 games a season and be expected to be high quality, we don't need a world class LB just someone who can come in and be great cover for Evra and give time to Fabio and Fryers to be the next two main LB's by the time Baines hits 31 those two will be ready to take the reigns, I think it would be a very wise move, Evra should have all the Champs League and hard PL games, Baines should have cup games and easier league games, it makes sense to have two left backs we can rely on and a good dead ball specialists so Nani stops standing over the ball hah***
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:24 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    lewis.No.9:
    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
    I agree with u here. He is solid but not really utd class. I understand the idea of it, to get the best out of ever , provide cover and allow time for fabio and fryers to progress. But it shouldnt be at the teams detriment. fabio has had his injury problems so a loan would be good. But why not have fryers as cover for evra and actually give him game time. then spend the 15m from baines on a top defensive midfielder like martinez, strootman, asamoah.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:21 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    can someone honestly prove to me baines is good enough?....I mean come on. He has a good dead ball technique and misleading stats about having the least dribbles past him......but that ASIDE how is he better than Evra?....or even up to Utd quality?. I just DO NOT see any strength in this rumour. How often have the tabloids linked us to Rodwell in the past?....and that has NEVER happened....and will never happen.....
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:16 PM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    Leighton Baines next imo and then that may just be us done. Would love us to get Modric too but we dont pay big money for players anymore.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 11:01 AM

    Re: well powel and kagwa who next? :)

    General-K:
    matt sleet:
    we will sign a central midfielder and a left back. powell was a signing that was made because other clubs were circling, he wasnt intially in our plans for this summer. i think asamoah or strootman will come in. but we def will sign a cm. anderson, carrick, fletcher, scholes, giggs, cleverley looks enough on paper but fletcher may never come back, scholes and giggs cant play every game, anderson is likely to be sold and is alaways injured and cleverley has had fitness issues. that only leaves carrick as some one who can play week in week out and if he were to get injured we would struggle big time
    I agree with your opinion, the fact that our midfield still lacks assertiveness and consistency is still the main worry. Kagawa is fantastic addition to a squad that lacks the type of player he is, and the quality he will offer. One touch football and a great eye for a pass and a superb change of pace and adaptability. However to say he is midfielder in the scholes, carrick anderson fletcher and cleverly mode is wrong. He plays in a free role just off the forwards and either flank preferable left. now that said, we need a player that is accustomed to the riggers of the premier league and has the talent to fit in immediately and further improve our starting 11's ability to maintain possession, play the simple and complex passes and as the intelligence to join the attack when required to bag a few goals, and for me the only player that is available in respect of funding the move is LUKE MODRIC. He loves the league and would jump at the chance of playing amongst european elites in the champions league and challenging for major honors. We have the credentials to attract him, but do we have the financial backing to fund the move, that remains to be known. but he will be a welcomed final addition along with clyne has cover for the full back slots. i believe rafael will make the right back slot his own, and evra will improve significantly from the previous season to cement his position. we just need Modric to control and dictate the tempo of the game , because scholes and giggs cant play every game.
    I agree, although I think we may bring in strootman or asamoah and leave the scholes/ modric role till next summer. Eriksen has said he could well leave after one more year at ajax and he fits in more with the way utd operate in signing youth and could def do that job. That would mean getting through one more season with pretty much rotating the central midfield, unless we play say strootman and carrick as first choice. play a 4-2-3-1 and let the 4 attackers do all the creating.
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