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  • 20 Jun 2012 3:45 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    "RUTHLESS-REDS":
    David_RedDevilForever:
    "RUTHLESS-REDS":
    rispel:
    I Just want everyone to read this article it's really insightful and maybe true? Please nice opinions only http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/06/07/United-Have-Regressed.aspx
    guy's you may think im mad, but i read this article on this site about 2yrs ago, by a poster called MUreligion,if any of you posters can confirm this, or if MUreligion is still around under a different name.i don't think he is though he used to write big articiles like this,they were brialliant everyone loved them.i haven't read a thread like his in years.he was just a student back then.believe me or not,i think somebody has to remember this poster and if old threads could be pulled you'd see some of his stuff.the article is a great read,was back then and still is now,if red irish is still knockin around he'll confirm this,its buggin me cause i know im write....
    I know MUReligion mate,he went by the name UnitedKiko.

    He is my friend in facebook by the name Cebrian Efrian.Great lad.

    cheers bud ill look him up.
    https://www.facebook.com/cebrianefrain
    Common sense is not so common
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  • 17 Jun 2012 1:12 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    David_RedDevilForever:
    "RUTHLESS-REDS":
    rispel:
    I Just want everyone to read this article it's really insightful and maybe true? Please nice opinions only http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/06/07/United-Have-Regressed.aspx
    guy's you may think im mad, but i read this article on this site about 2yrs ago, by a poster called MUreligion,if any of you posters can confirm this, or if MUreligion is still around under a different name.i don't think he is though he used to write big articiles like this,they were brialliant everyone loved them.i haven't read a thread like his in years.he was just a student back then.believe me or not,i think somebody has to remember this poster and if old threads could be pulled you'd see some of his stuff.the article is a great read,was back then and still is now,if red irish is still knockin around he'll confirm this,its buggin me cause i know im write....
    I know MUReligion mate,he went by the name UnitedKiko.

    He is my friend in facebook by the name Cebrian Efrian.Great lad.

    cheers bud ill look him up.
    Reply
  • 17 Jun 2012 12:43 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    I disagree somewhat with the Ronaldo reference the article makes. I can understand that he developed properly because of good coaching, but the way he turned out was more a pleasant accident. We came up with a system to take advantage of this and we were seeing the end product of that process. The benefit of the hindsight makes it look like some sort of well laid out master plan which was foreseen in a crystal ball, but come on! As for defensive midfield role I agree, and that's what's still missing in my eyes. Wayne is also not a proper playmaker for this purpose. He's a great make shift #10 which goes to show how talented the lad is, but a genuine playmaker he is not. Lack of options down the middle is what's restricting the expansive game the article was going on about, alongside the defensive issues at the bottom of the midfield.
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  • 17 Jun 2012 12:21 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    "RUTHLESS-REDS":
    rispel:
    I Just want everyone to read this article it's really insightful and maybe true? Please nice opinions only http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/06/07/United-Have-Regressed.aspx
    guy's you may think im mad, but i read this article on this site about 2yrs ago, by a poster called MUreligion,if any of you posters can confirm this, or if MUreligion is still around under a different name.i don't think he is though he used to write big articiles like this,they were brialliant everyone loved them.i haven't read a thread like his in years.he was just a student back then.believe me or not,i think somebody has to remember this poster and if old threads could be pulled you'd see some of his stuff.the article is a great read,was back then and still is now,if red irish is still knockin around he'll confirm this,its buggin me cause i know im write....
    I know MUReligion mate,he went by the name UnitedKiko.

    He is my friend in facebook by the name Cebrian Efrian.Great lad.

    Common sense is not so common
    Reply
  • 17 Jun 2012 12:10 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    rispel:
    I Just want everyone to read this article it's really insightful and maybe true? Please nice opinions only http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/06/07/United-Have-Regressed.aspx
    Excellent article, and I think the other article on 4231 formation is even better. We have fans talking about 4231 but simply put down any names without considering balance.

    http://whitehouseaddress.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/dutchs-midfield-failings.html
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  • 16 Jun 2012 8:20 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    doctormalone:
    I think it was a brilliant article, hit the nail on the head about the 4-4-1-1 formation and how we need to re-modernise United!
    haha how did it hit the nail on the head? how does changing tactics "re-modernise united"? this article is ridiculous and i find it amazing that anyone could truly buy into this.
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  • 16 Jun 2012 6:59 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    rispel:
    I Just want everyone to read this article it's really insightful and maybe true? Please nice opinions only http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/06/07/United-Have-Regressed.aspx
    guy's you may think im mad, but i read this article on this site about 2yrs ago, by a poster called MUreligion,if any of you posters can confirm this, or if MUreligion is still around under a different name.i don't think he is though he used to write big articiles like this,they were brialliant everyone loved them.i haven't read a thread like his in years.he was just a student back then.believe me or not,i think somebody has to remember this poster and if old threads could be pulled you'd see some of his stuff.the article is a great read,was back then and still is now,if red irish is still knockin around he'll confirm this,its buggin me cause i know im write....
    Reply
  • 16 Jun 2012 6:19 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    If people think Queiroz modernised the game, they are wrong.

    The only modernising Queiroz did was solidify our team instead of making them very open and cavalier like we were in the past. In the past, we had an all-out attack approach, the "you score, we'll score more" mentality. However, teams in Europe weren't like that. They were more organised, more defensive, more set to play against us. Our gung-ho approach didn't work against them as all they did was sit back and counter us. Sir Alex brought in Queiroz to solidify this side, to make them like other European teams in that they'll be more solid and won't take the gung-ho approach. He wasn't making us go for dribblers. He was making us more solid in midfield. He was the guy who helped make our defence solid from 2006 onwards along with making our midfield more disciplined rather than gung-ho like they were in the past. He tried to introduce defensive midfielders into the side, but this failed as our team wasn't adjusting to that. He tried to take a more defensive approach with us. He tried to make us play a more defensive 4-3-3, kind of like what Mourinho did with Chelsea. He was modernising us in that he was restricting us, making us more defensive and safe, like many football teams are now. This helped us in Europe as we weren't gung-ho against sides with a good defensive setup.

    Queiroz wasn't the sole reason we got C. Ronaldo and "dribblers." Sir Alex was the guy who kept us playing attacking football. Him and Phelan are the people who allow us to play attacking football that all of you so crave. Meulensteen is the guy who helps players develop their dribbling skills. All of you people who want Queiroz will see a return of defensive football from us.

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  • 16 Jun 2012 5:01 PM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    rispel:
    I Just want everyone to read this article it's really insightful and maybe true? Please nice opinions only http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/06/07/United-Have-Regressed.aspx
    If he'd posted it here, he'd have been told he didn't know what Phelan and Meulensteen had done in the background. And he would have to shut his trap. LOL. My applause to him.
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  • 15 Jun 2012 10:11 AM

    Re: UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    I think it was a brilliant article, hit the nail on the head about the 4-4-1-1 formation and how we need to re-modernise United!
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  • 15 Jun 2012 9:41 AM

    UNITED HAVE REGESSED?

    I Just want everyone to read this article it's really insightful and maybe true? Please nice opinions only http://footballspeak.com/post/2012/06/07/United-Have-Regressed.aspx
    BELIEVE!!!!UNITED!!!!!
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