lucautd:

Im sick of seeing fellow utd fans slamming players like pogba and fryers for not signing any old offer utd put infront of them? Seriously these fans need to wake up and realise that were in 2012 and players dont sign or stay at clubs for pure love of the club, or the clubs history anymore, utd are going to lose 2 future star players for next to nothing all because we dont feel we have to pay the going rate for young talent because we are man utd, i mean why did utd leave of their best youth talents contracts run down to the final 7 months before even starting contract negotiations with fryers and pogba, this should of been done a long time ago, im not saying its all down to money either i feel both players have deserved more first team football to show their true abilities. When will utd and a large section of the fans realise that we have to atleast match what other teams are willing to pay top talent and for all them fans who will claim they would rather lose pogba than pay him high wages (he only wanted 20k a week not massive in this day and age) need to think on, you want the top players you have to pay for them this includes the top youth players which pogba certainly is.

So basically your post is wrong.

Pijo:

United don't reward young players with bumper contracts until they've proved they deserve it. Neither Pogba nor Fryers have got even remotely close to doing this, ergo they haven't been given the kind of deals they seem to have believed they deserved. You have to prove your worth, commitment and desire to be considered a first-team squad member and neither of these lads have done so thus far. If some other team wants to throw thoroughly undeserved large sums at these kids then more fool them.

Look at Pogba - it's clearly about the money because he's signed for Juventus, who have gone on and signed two more players who can play in his position - meaning it's very unlikely he'll get first team footballer there before he would have with us. If it's about the football, surely it makes more sense to stay with one of the biggest clubs in the world and try and force your way into the team, rather than bolt at the first opportunity of a larger pay packet?

And surely it makes sense to steer clear of a team who ruin potential class players... ie Juve ruined Giovinco.. He was all set to be the next big thing until Juve completely ruined him... Now he hasnt really improved at all and is playing for a below-par team.

lucautd:

Im sick of seeing fellow utd fans slamming players like pogba and fryers for not signing any old offer utd put infront of them? Seriously these fans need to wake up and realise that were in 2012 and players dont sign or stay at clubs for pure love of the club, or the clubs history anymore, utd are going to lose 2 future star players for next to nothing all because we dont feel we have to pay the going rate for young talent because we are man utd, i mean why did utd leave of their best youth talents contracts run down to the final 7 months before even starting contract negotiations with fryers and pogba, this should of been done a long time ago, im not saying its all down to money either i feel both players have deserved more first team football to show their true abilities. When will utd and a large section of the fans realise that we have to atleast match what other teams are willing to pay top talent and for all them fans who will claim they would rather lose pogba than pay him high wages (he only wanted 20k a week not massive in this day and age) need to think on, you want the top players you have to pay for them this includes the top youth players which pogba certainly is.

Look at Pogba - it's clearly about the money because he's signed for Juventus, who have gone on and signed two more players who can play in his position - meaning it's very unlikely he'll get first team footballer there before he would have with us. If it's about the football, surely it makes more sense to stay with one of the biggest clubs in the world and try and force your way into the team, rather than bolt at the first opportunity of a larger pay packet?

lucautd:

Im sick of seeing fellow utd fans slamming players like pogba and fryers for not signing any old offer utd put infront of them? Seriously these fans need to wake up and realise that were in 2012 and players dont sign or stay at clubs for pure love of the club, or the clubs history anymore, utd are going to lose 2 future star players for next to nothing all because we dont feel we have to pay the going rate for young talent because we are man utd, i mean why did utd leave of their best youth talents contracts run down to the final 7 months before even starting contract negotiations with fryers and pogba, this should of been done a long time ago, im not saying its all down to money either i feel both players have deserved more first team football to show their true abilities. When will utd and a large section of the fans realise that we have to atleast match what other teams are willing to pay top talent and for all them fans who will claim they would rather lose pogba than pay him high wages (he only wanted 20k a week not massive in this day and age) need to think on, you want the top players you have to pay for them this includes the top youth players which pogba certainly is.

The only thing that stopped Pogba from progressing this season was himself, don't give me this bull about his agent, he has the final say, not his agent. Fryers, fair enough, maybe he wants 1st team football which he won't be getting at Utd, truth be told originally I had no problem with Pogba wanting to leave as I thought it was simply to progress his career and then I discovered that it was Juventus he wanted to go to, and it immediately became clear that he was either after money, or he was delusional in his thinking he would get more game time at Juventus, either way, I lost all respect for him after that, and the thing I didn't like with Pogba was that when Sir Alex actually began to give the lad chances and game time he continued to threaten leaving, well honestly he can rightly get the f### out of the club if he doesn't respect that our club is far more important than he will ever be.

Alan Chaplain:

I completely agree, The clubs owners are to blame in my eyes. These players are more than capable of playing in the first team but we have failed to make it happen for financial reasons mainly. Such a shame that we cannot convince these players to stay. Football has changed it is a massive money making world now and like it or not United have to go a long with it if they want to kepp their top talent and posse a continuous challege

As for Fryers someone that knows him said we don't really want to keep him but he wanted to stay. Don't know why. Even though I don't think he'll actually make it at United. Still puzzling.

lucautd:

Im sick of seeing fellow utd fans slamming players like pogba and fryers for not signing any old offer utd put infront of them? Seriously these fans need to wake up and realise that were in 2012 and players dont sign or stay at clubs for pure love of the club, or the clubs history anymore, utd are going to lose 2 future star players for next to nothing all because we dont feel we have to pay the going rate for young talent because we are man utd, i mean why did utd leave of their best youth talents contracts run down to the final 7 months before even starting contract negotiations with fryers and pogba, this should of been done a long time ago, im not saying its all down to money either i feel both players have deserved more first team football to show their true abilities. When will utd and a large section of the fans realise that we have to atleast match what other teams are willing to pay top talent and for all them fans who will claim they would rather lose pogba than pay him high wages (he only wanted 20k a week not massive in this day and age) need to think on, you want the top players you have to pay for them this includes the top youth players which pogba certainly is.