mazhar08:

hughie77:

mazhar08:

He turned us down once. Why give him a second chance? We aren't a small club with a small-club mentality.

I don`t think that mentality is right?

Yes, his mentality isn't right. He has the potential and talent, but once he's given serious competition for a first-team spot, his head drops down. He needs to buck up and mature and not expect to be given a first-team spot without a fight. I'm sure he'll mature, but I hope it's sooner rather than later in order to see the best from Ramsey again.

Last season he played up to 45 games and looked liked he was picking up his form. Assisted 8 goals and scored 3, not bad for him and ATM I rather have Ramsey than Anderson.

hughie77:

mazhar08:

He turned us down once. Why give him a second chance? We aren't a small club with a small-club mentality.

I don`t think that mentality is right?

Yes, his mentality isn't right. He has the potential and talent, but once he's given serious competition for a first-team spot, his head drops down. He needs to buck up and mature and not expect to be given a first-team spot without a fight. I'm sure he'll mature, but I hope it's sooner rather than later in order to see the best from Ramsey again.

singh23:

mazhar08:

He turned us down once. Why give him a second chance? We aren't a small club with a small-club mentality.

Gave Rooney a second chance, remember when he wanted to leave and then signed a new contract? Did that show some mentality?

There's a difference between keeping your own players at your club and bringing in new players. Ramsey was given a chance to be with us and develop into our way. He blew it and went to Arsenal. I mean, he snubbed us because he thought we wouldn't give him enough match time at that age. What kind of attitude was that, that "give me what I want" attitude? If he wanted first-team time with us, he had to earn it. He shouldn't have come out and snubbed us in public because he said that he wouldn't get match time with us. You know what I perceive from players like Ramsey, Hazard, and Tevez? They don't want to work hard for the first-team spot and would rather be given to them on a plate. Ramsey was given his first chance to battle for his position with the likes of Arteta, Rosicky, and Oxlade-Chamberlain. Guess what? He failed.

I'd rather have someone with Kagawa or Rooney's attitude rather than Ramsey's, Hazard's, or Tevez'.

singh23:

mazhar08:

He turned us down once. Why give him a second chance? We aren't a small club with a small-club mentality.

Gave Rooney a second chance, remember when he wanted to leave and then signed a new contract? Did that show some mentality?

i think we all agree that the Rooney contract saga was a great mind game played by SAF to make it overshadow his personal life..... Aaron Ramsey turned us down for a packet of sweets, no thank you...

mazhar08:

He turned us down once. Why give him a second chance? We aren't a small club with a small-club mentality.

I don`t think that mentality is right? he`s 21, he turned UTD down a few yrs back, and had a Leg broken and was out for a season or so, went on loan back to Cardiff, then came back to the PREM with Arsenal, and had a very good season with a Mediocre Gunners side. If SAF thinks he will fit into the side he will go for him? doesn`t matter if he turned UTD down or not. Way to good for Fulham that`s for sure he`s a top player, I bet Brendan Rogers at Liverpool will be looking at him, if Wenger wants rid. 21 and loads of improvement with Better players. I`d like him at Old Trafford.

mazhar08:

He turned us down once. Why give him a second chance? We aren't a small club with a small-club mentality.

Gave Rooney a second chance, remember when he wanted to leave and then signed a new contract? Did that show some mentality?

He turned us down once. Why give him a second chance? We aren't a small club with a small-club mentality.

Looks to me like he burned out from all that paper defence Arsenal have and he doesn't seem to have recovered from that.

forevergiggs:

iam_kramer:

forevergiggs:

You would or wouldn't mind him here? No way is he United material, Fulham sounds about right for him.

had a really bad season hasn't he. but he's still really young and has the potential... don't think we should be looking at him though, don't think he is any better than what we have in Cleverley

Truth is when i first saw him about 3 seasons ago i thought he was a cracking player but little by little his form is going down, it might be something to do with injuries but i wouldn't like to risk having another sick note on board.

The same for me is happening with Kieren Gibbs, another one who started like a house on fire but he neither seems to be improving his game.

yeah he started really well didn't he when he went to arsenal. had that bad injury. and i did think he was going to be a great player too. you know, he still could. he's only 21 after all.

forevergiggs:

iam_kramer:

forevergiggs:

You would or wouldn't mind him here? No way is he United material, Fulham sounds about right for him.

had a really bad season hasn't he. but he's still really young and has the potential... don't think we should be looking at him though, don't think he is any better than what we have in Cleverley

Truth is when i first saw him about 3 seasons ago i thought he was a cracking player but little by little his form is going down, it might be something to do with injuries but i wouldn't like to risk having another sick note on board.

The same for me is happening with Kieren Gibbs, another one who started like a house on fire but he neither seems to be improving his game.

yeah he started really well didn't he when he went to arsenal. had that bad injury. and i did think he was going to be a great player too. you know, he still could. he's only 21 after all.

iam_kramer:

forevergiggs:

You would or wouldn't mind him here? No way is he United material, Fulham sounds about right for him.

had a really bad season hasn't he. but he's still really young and has the potential... don't think we should be looking at him though, don't think he is any better than what we have in Cleverley

Truth is when i first saw him about 3 seasons ago i thought he was a cracking player but little by little his form is going down, it might be something to do with injuries but i wouldn't like to risk having another sick note on board.

The same for me is happening with Kieren Gibbs, another one who started like a house on fire but he neither seems to be improving his game.

Every time he scores a celebrity dies. No thank you.

Turned us down once, he blew his only chance.

forevergiggs:

You would or wouldn't mind him here? No way is he United material, Fulham sounds about right for him.

had a really bad season hasn't he. but he's still really young and has the potential... don't think we should be looking at him though, don't think he is any better than what we have in Cleverley

forevergiggs:

You would or wouldn't mind him here? No way is he United material, Fulham sounds about right for him.

opppss i meant Wouldnt mind

He is still a young player and still developing similar to such players like Welbeck, Cleverley, Jones, OX, Smalling. I think Fulham will be every lucky to have him.