What i think is that with all our supposed targets being CAMs, Fergie might be contemplating something like the Barca formation. Kagawa and one of modric/lucas or an of our supposed targets are able to do a similar job to xavi and iniesta and as for the busquets role i think he prefers jones for that and carrick can also do a decent job at that and maybe that is why there is nothing about martinez/strootman and the little smoke that was there before the transfer window has vanished. We may very well see a front 3 of rooney nani and young/welbeck and kagawa with lucas supporting that attack we will walk through any defence, and with jones/carrick at the back shielding our back four the fear of our defence being run over is also gone. Although my preference would be martinez/m'villa for that role but that just maybe too much to ask.

Brittain 10:

Not the most reliable sources, and not the sort of player we especially need. Tremendous talent nonetheless. Dk if there's any truth to us speaking with his father but if so that'll certainly give us an advantage, not sure if it's the best way to spend £30 million though. I think a box to box mid is more necessary, we already have Kagawa and Powell for the am position. I'd certainly take Lucas though!

I agree not the most reliable sources and we do need a box to box MF rather then an attacking one. If the story is true tho I can see SAF trying to turn him into a box to box MF like he did to Anderson or he could be looking at him as a LW which makes more sense seeming we were in of hazard

that's the thing i can't see where he would play....unless we scrap the 442 for good, and have two attaking mids and one anchor in the middle...highly doubt it though

matt sleet:

redds:

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HIS FAMILY OWN A LARGE STAKE OF HIS CONTRACT AND SAF WOULD HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM IT HIS IN HIS BEST INTEREST TO COME TO UTD. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A FEW BRAZILIANS ALREADY I THINK HIS FAMILY WOULD PROBABLY LIKE HIM TO STAY IN BRAZIL A BIT LONGER.

pssibly, but he could use rafael and fabio as examples of where they have taken young brazilian players and helped them develop. The parents could even possibly speak to rafael and fabio. I think fergie would much rather a players family were looking after him, than a money hungry agent

I agree, a family over an agent is what Fergie sortv likes. they look after the real interests of the lad.

Taz153:

bevninja:

Brittain 10:

Taz153:

Brittain 10:

matt sleet:

Brittain 10:

silvester88:

I know that its not the best of sources but Lucas Moura would be a class signing.Yes 30million might be abit much but considering his ability talent and the fact that we are building for the future i think he would be a class signing for us.We need to sign a top class midfielder and Lucas Moura fist the bill with what we do sign young talented players and develop them.We need a more box to box midfielder to be honest but if there was any sign that we could sign Lucas i would take him a top talent.

Agreed. Think we should prioritise but these sorts of opportunities don't often come about, so we should really consider it.

it looks liek we were prepared to spend 30m on hazard or rodriguez. The rodriguez deal now looks dead so maybe we have turned our attention to Moura as modric favours madrid as well

Think you're right. Tbh I think Moura's a better talent than Rodriguez but didn't really consider him because of all the other teams after him. I'd still look for a box to box mid though-more essential.

Dont know how much truth is there in those reports , but dont you think instead of spending 30million on a CAM , we should use that money to land someone like Martinez ? 30million is the quoted price but his actual price a lot more than that. Chelsea failed in with a 32million bid for him before they signed Hazard. He has a 84million release clause.

Oh i totally agree a defensive midfielder is more necessary and I'd certainly rather spend the money there as I've said on numerous occasions. As for the buy out clause I wouldn't take too much notice, the aim of that is to ensure Sao Paulo are taken seriously, they don't wan to lose big players on the cheap so put these illusional buy out clauses there to make potential buyers treat them with respect.

As for Chelsea's bid being rejected that may not necessarily have been down to not enough money being paid, maybe Lucas wasn't interested in being part of Chelsea's "project". If it's true we've spoken to his father then that'll give a good impression about us as it proves we have the utmost respect for them, we are not trying to steal the player from under their noses, but are supposedly willing to meet and convince his parents that a move to OT is the best option. His parents will most likely have a huge influence on Moura's decision. But the conclusion is he's not what we need regardless of his talent!

His family actually own part of his contract, so you would also have to deal with them as a third party in any deal, not just ordinary family advice.

The strange bit about this is Moura is another attacking midfielder, and we just bought Kagawa whose favoured and best position is an attacking midfielder.

We really need a high quality CM above all else which would make Moura a very strange buy.

Which means his family will also receive a part of the transfer fee ?

Yep they would be part of the deal and benefit financially from it, i don't know what percentage they own of his playing rights, but they are down as part owners with his club.

glory glory from cairo:

areddevil4life7:

Just check youtube

all good plans start with this.........kidding..hes great and everything but can he develop the other traits which we are looking for...cuz if we buy him that will be our summer spending and we efinitly need a good tackler

where will he play?

Lucas Moura is twice the player Eden Hazard is. If we get Moura it will be THE transfer of the season in the PL.

areddevil4life7:

Just check youtube

all good plans start with this.........kidding..hes great and everything but can he develop the other traits which we are looking for...cuz if we buy him that will be our summer spending and we efinitly need a good tackler

bevninja:

Brittain 10:

Taz153:

Brittain 10:

matt sleet:

Brittain 10:

silvester88:

I know that its not the best of sources but Lucas Moura would be a class signing.Yes 30million might be abit much but considering his ability talent and the fact that we are building for the future i think he would be a class signing for us.We need to sign a top class midfielder and Lucas Moura fist the bill with what we do sign young talented players and develop them.We need a more box to box midfielder to be honest but if there was any sign that we could sign Lucas i would take him a top talent.

Agreed. Think we should prioritise but these sorts of opportunities don't often come about, so we should really consider it.

it looks liek we were prepared to spend 30m on hazard or rodriguez. The rodriguez deal now looks dead so maybe we have turned our attention to Moura as modric favours madrid as well

Think you're right. Tbh I think Moura's a better talent than Rodriguez but didn't really consider him because of all the other teams after him. I'd still look for a box to box mid though-more essential.

Dont know how much truth is there in those reports , but dont you think instead of spending 30million on a CAM , we should use that money to land someone like Martinez ? 30million is the quoted price but his actual price a lot more than that. Chelsea failed in with a 32million bid for him before they signed Hazard. He has a 84million release clause.

Oh i totally agree a defensive midfielder is more necessary and I'd certainly rather spend the money there as I've said on numerous occasions. As for the buy out clause I wouldn't take too much notice, the aim of that is to ensure Sao Paulo are taken seriously, they don't wan to lose big players on the cheap so put these illusional buy out clauses there to make potential buyers treat them with respect.

As for Chelsea's bid being rejected that may not necessarily have been down to not enough money being paid, maybe Lucas wasn't interested in being part of Chelsea's "project". If it's true we've spoken to his father then that'll give a good impression about us as it proves we have the utmost respect for them, we are not trying to steal the player from under their noses, but are supposedly willing to meet and convince his parents that a move to OT is the best option. His parents will most likely have a huge influence on Moura's decision. But the conclusion is he's not what we need regardless of his talent!

His family actually own part of his contract, so you would also have to deal with them as a third party in any deal, not just ordinary family advice.

The strange bit about this is Moura is another attacking midfielder, and we just bought Kagawa whose favoured and best position is an attacking midfielder.

We really need a high quality CM above all else which would make Moura a very strange buy.

Which means his family will also receive a part of the transfer fee ?

It would be an incredible signing I have to say. He's a special player who has the talent to emulate and even surpass Ronaldo. He has more talent that Kagawa and Powell put together so to say we don't need a player like that is a bit short sighted. I'm sure we can afford him and I suspect the Glazers will back the transfer if Fergie pushes it. The difficulty lies convincing his family and Sao Paulo to agree it. That seems like a long way off unfortunately. A personal visit may do the trick - grab your sun tan cream SAF!

redds:

THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN HIS FAMILY OWN A LARGE STAKE OF HIS CONTRACT AND SAF WOULD HAVE TO CONVINCE THEM IT HIS IN HIS BEST INTEREST TO COME TO UTD. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A FEW BRAZILIANS ALREADY I THINK HIS FAMILY WOULD PROBABLY LIKE HIM TO STAY IN BRAZIL A BIT LONGER.

pssibly, but he could use rafael and fabio as examples of where they have taken young brazilian players and helped them develop. The parents could even possibly speak to rafael and fabio. I think fergie would much rather a players family were looking after him, than a money hungry agent

Taz153:

Brittain 10:

matt sleet:

Brittain 10:

silvester88:

I know that its not the best of sources but Lucas Moura would be a class signing.Yes 30million might be abit much but considering his ability talent and the fact that we are building for the future i think he would be a class signing for us.We need to sign a top class midfielder and Lucas Moura fist the bill with what we do sign young talented players and develop them.We need a more box to box midfielder to be honest but if there was any sign that we could sign Lucas i would take him a top talent.

Agreed. Think we should prioritise but these sorts of opportunities don't often come about, so we should really consider it.

it looks liek we were prepared to spend 30m on hazard or rodriguez. The rodriguez deal now looks dead so maybe we have turned our attention to Moura as modric favours madrid as well

Think you're right. Tbh I think Moura's a better talent than Rodriguez but didn't really consider him because of all the other teams after him. I'd still look for a box to box mid though-more essential.

Dont know how much truth is there in those reports , but dont you think instead of spending 30million on a CAM , we should use that money to land someone like Martinez ? 30million is the quoted price but his actual price a lot more than that. Chelsea failed in with a 32million bid for him before they signed Hazard. He has a 84million release clause.

with out doubt, martinez would be the one player ild sign before any other right now. he is just what our team needs and i think it would complete the 4-2-3-1 formation we look likely to play. But fergie doesnt seem to be after that type of player, i think thats a mistake. But we ahve been linked with hazard, modric, mouthinho, rodriguez all attacking and not really at all with a more defensive player that we actually need. i think moura is quality but he is more a luxery buy.

not the player we need bt MY GOD I DONT CARE. this kid is phenomenal .........if we get him he has the potential to do what ronaldo did here....and more. hes that much of a talent. and he suits our league as he is soo powerful. please glazers dont lets us down. give ferguson the money. id pay 40m for him

Brittain 10:

Taz153:

Brittain 10:

matt sleet:

Brittain 10:

silvester88:

I know that its not the best of sources but Lucas Moura would be a class signing.Yes 30million might be abit much but considering his ability talent and the fact that we are building for the future i think he would be a class signing for us.We need to sign a top class midfielder and Lucas Moura fist the bill with what we do sign young talented players and develop them.We need a more box to box midfielder to be honest but if there was any sign that we could sign Lucas i would take him a top talent.

Agreed. Think we should prioritise but these sorts of opportunities don't often come about, so we should really consider it.

it looks liek we were prepared to spend 30m on hazard or rodriguez. The rodriguez deal now looks dead so maybe we have turned our attention to Moura as modric favours madrid as well

Think you're right. Tbh I think Moura's a better talent than Rodriguez but didn't really consider him because of all the other teams after him. I'd still look for a box to box mid though-more essential.

Dont know how much truth is there in those reports , but dont you think instead of spending 30million on a CAM , we should use that money to land someone like Martinez ? 30million is the quoted price but his actual price a lot more than that. Chelsea failed in with a 32million bid for him before they signed Hazard. He has a 84million release clause.

Oh i totally agree a defensive midfielder is more necessary and I'd certainly rather spend the money there as I've said on numerous occasions. As for the buy out clause I wouldn't take too much notice, the aim of that is to ensure Sao Paulo are taken seriously, they don't wan to lose big players on the cheap so put these illusional buy out clauses there to make potential buyers treat them with respect.

As for Chelsea's bid being rejected that may not necessarily have been down to not enough money being paid, maybe Lucas wasn't interested in being part of Chelsea's "project". If it's true we've spoken to his father then that'll give a good impression about us as it proves we have the utmost respect for them, we are not trying to steal the player from under their noses, but are supposedly willing to meet and convince his parents that a move to OT is the best option. His parents will most likely have a huge influence on Moura's decision. But the conclusion is he's not what we need regardless of his talent!

His family actually own part of his contract, so you would also have to deal with them as a third party in any deal, not just ordinary family advice.

The strange bit about this is Moura is another attacking midfielder, and we just bought Kagawa whose favoured and best position is an attacking midfielder.

We really need a high quality CM above all else which would make Moura a very strange buy.

Brittain 10:

Oh i totally agree a defensive midfielder is more necessary and I'd certainly rather spend the money there as I've said on numerous occasions. As for the buy out clause I wouldn't take too much notice, the aim of that is to ensure Sao Paulo are taken seriously, they don't wan to lose big players on the cheap so put these illusional buy out clauses there to make potential buyers treat them with respect.

Agreed.

Brittain 10:

As for Chelsea's bid being rejected that may not necessarily have been down to not enough money being paid, maybe Lucas wasn't interested in being part of Chelsea's "project". If it's true we've spoken to his father then that'll give a good impression about us as it proves we have the utmost respect for them, we are not trying to steal the player from under their noses, but are supposedly willing to meet and convince his parents that a move to OT is the best option. His parents will most likely have a huge influence on Moura's decision. But the conclusion is he's not what we need regardless of his talent!

The offer which Chelsea made was huge. They were willing to pay 32million for a player who didn't even set foot to Europe before. I dont know about that , but Lucas said it many times that he'll take up the opportunity to play for a European club if he was offer the chance. Its true that we've spoken to his father & he was invited to visit OT. And guess what ? he did visit OT a few months ago. There were quotes coming straight from his Dad's mouth.