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  • 29 Dec 2012 1:48 PM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    The own goal should not have stood. The only reason Evans scored it was because of Cisse's position which was offside. He was marking an offside player and that is already interference. As for SAF, he has every right to have a go at the refs. The refs were not on the same page, first the goal was ruled out and then they changed their decision. I know its a hard job but, decisions have to be made on the spot. If they decided it was an own goal then they should have made that decision immediately and maybe SAF wouldn't be so angry.
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  • 28 Dec 2012 9:23 PM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    Plain and simply, Evans would not have been stood where he was if not for Cisse's presence. Therefore, interfering.
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  • 28 Dec 2012 3:31 PM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    c.thomas howell as soul man:
    The Evans OG was debatable, the penalty was pretty clear cut.
    I am not sure if he was intside the penalty area. It was nevertheless a handball in my opinion.
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  • 28 Dec 2012 3:24 PM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    On Match of the Day the question was asked by Lineker and the review was by Shearer,(Not Biased at all), Mark Lawrence's body language said it all, he didnt want to cause controversy and just agreed, but if you asked him now i bet he would say he was unsure !!! Believe me it was offside, Cisse was interfering with play, johnny panicked he knew if he let that ball go Cisse would have played it....... Mike Dean was a disgrace, he missed a blatant hand ball, booked United players for pithy fouls and let the Geordies get away with murder, People talk about our offside goal at Chelsea and remark that what goes around comes around well if thats the case Chelsea owe us a title, because had drogba been ruled off side they would not have won the title. While i am on a rant, lets just look at haranguing officials and SAF, I cannot blame him for his discontent on Boxing day, you had to be there to understand the total frustration with the referee's decisions, everything went against us, we all agree with fair play but Mike Dean could not be more blatant, he hates United,and brazenly waves this in our faces on every occasion he can, by second half the crowd were really fed up and expressed their feelings to the ref, in fact i bet if united were behind at full time he would not have said 4 minutes extra, if the F A was to reprimand anyone it should be him, as with Mike Dean he will influence a game so that anyone BUT united can win the league. Sorry I am done now but i must state that I do not apologise for anything I have said !!!!
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  • 28 Dec 2012 2:41 PM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    Cisse was offside but he wasn't interfering with play. If you watch closely, it was actually Evans who has grabbing Cisse. Cisse was just trying to get into a good position. He was also not in the sight of De Gea so didn't interfere that way, also he didn't push Evans, Evans fell of his own accord. They reviewed the incident in match of the day.
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  • 28 Dec 2012 10:53 AM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    The Evans OG was debatable, the penalty was pretty clear cut.
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  • 27 Dec 2012 2:47 PM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    If Cisse wasn't there it would be an easy pick for De Gea...
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  • 27 Dec 2012 1:40 PM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    Cisse was in an offside position when the ball was crossed by Simpson. However the new rule says that before being called offside, he must be interfering with play. While Cisse may not have touched the ball, he influenced Jonny Evans decision on what to do with the ball that was crossed. If Cisse had not been at the offside position, perhaps Jonny would have controlled the ball and move with the ball outside the danger area. Moreover, Cisse was attacking the ball as well. Thus Cisse was interfering with play. It was DEFINITELY an offside and the goal should not have stood. I am not a fan of Mike Dean of late as he seems to always get crucial decisions wrong against Man Utd. There was a clear penalty as Chicharito's shot was parried away by a defender inside the box. The defender's hand was outstretched and so deserving of a penalty. Almighty Mike waved on but he was quick to award a dubious penalty to City last week against Reading two minutes into added time despite the fact that Barry climbed and fouled the Reading Defender. Does he want to be the one that decides when the tittle goes?
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  • 27 Dec 2012 11:45 AM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    As soon as Simpson passed the ball Cisse was in an off sifde position and his proximity to the goal meant that he was interfering with play. Somebody famous, probably Clough, said that as soon as you enter the field of play you are interfering with play. If you aren't then you shouldn't be on the pitch. I agree though that it is confusing for officials. In my days Cisse would have been given offside -end of.
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  • 27 Dec 2012 11:17 AM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    No worries, it's not eactly took off anyway, hoping to get a handful of answers that try and explain why he isn't interfering with Jonny. All the people I've heard say it was onside have only said, 'he wasn't interfering', not heard anyone say why that's the case yet.
    Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
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  • 27 Dec 2012 11:14 AM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    MarcRed:
    http://community.manutd.com/forums/t/254736.aspx
    Ah ok sorry didn't see you made one already.
    United Is The Greatest Family
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  • 27 Dec 2012 11:11 AM

    Re: Evans OG was offside

    http://community.manutd.com/forums/t/254736.aspx
    Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
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  • 27 Dec 2012 11:09 AM

    Evans OG was offside

    Evans OG was offside, because Cisse was in an offside position and interfering with play. He hassled Evans with his arms as the ball was coming in. Which means he was interfering with play which means he was active which means it was offside.

    All so we should of had a clear penalty. How many more games will Dean referee and ruin before the FA realise he's needs the sack. Fergie shouted so much at the assistant referee his chewing gum fell out of his mouth.
    United Is The Greatest Family
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