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Gavinio:

trust_the_team:

oi gavinio...why do ya keep warning me mate????iknow how this thing works..Ive been here for quite a time..u know...may be thats y i prefer the lounge (if u know wt i mean)...no muppets...and true red devils ud find there...but this forum is improving...thank go we dont have the oooops problem now...or is it still there????

And coming to the point of glazers that someone was mentioning...I'd love if some sheikh comes and invests here and get rid of Glazers debt..i say a sheikh cuz no brit or american is buying anything nowadays..!!

Why do I keep waring you?  Simple.  It is because you keep on breaking the Forum Terms.  Look at this post for example where you have used text language to post in.  This is against the Forum Terms which say:

You agree not to do or participate in any of the following on the Messageboard:
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·         Use any language other than English, or use any form of abbreviated text;

 

We ask uses to type words out in full in order to make posts easier to read, especially for people for whom English is not their first language.  Sure you may have been here a long time and know how things work, but for a long time stuff like this was not being picked up on because there was not a visible moderating presence on here.  There is now and we are making sure people know what their responsibilities in relation to the Forum Terms are.  Where they do not abide by them and we spot it we are asking them not to do that again.  We are trying to use a common sense approach in that we will ask users first not to do it again, but you are warned that continuing to break the Forum Terms will lead to stronger action being taken.  We only have so much patience!

 

I agree ur trying to do yer best here...but there's no logic in it...i mean ur trying ur best to keep the lil one's away from swearing yeah...but if the lil ones can log onto manutd.com...that means they can log on to some adult sites as well...and that is a better place to learn all nonsense and swearing than this blog actually...i mean how many of us waited for our 18th birthday to grab a pint or watch an adult movie..i didnt..may be u didnt either...i used to buy a newspaper only for the page 3..haha...but... its our opinion...yeah...and every one has the right to share it...dont want to be rude..but u mods are actually deleting threads for no reason...u can delete the post which contains the so called 'objectionable' content..but no point in deleting the whole thread....for e.g a guy said that fergie should step down...that's his opinion...he'l be called a lot of things for posting something like that...that's his headache..u should keep a watch on the replies to that thread rather than actually deleting the whole of it...i mean i dont like our owners...but i wont care to start a thread cuz i know u'd delete it anyways...

PS: No swearing in this post..i tried my best...and i hope u know what i mean..

trust_the_team:

oi gavinio...why do ya keep warning me mate????iknow how this thing works..Ive been here for quite a time..u know...may be thats y i prefer the lounge (if u know wt i mean)...no muppets...and true red devils ud find there...but this forum is improving...thank go we dont have the oooops problem now...or is it still there????

And coming to the point of glazers that someone was mentioning...I'd love if some sheikh comes and invests here and get rid of Glazers debt..i say a sheikh cuz no brit or american is buying anything nowadays..!!

Why do I keep waring you?  Simple.  It is because you keep on breaking the Forum Terms.  Look at this post for example where you have used text language to post in.  This is against the Forum Terms which say:

You agree not to do or participate in any of the following on the Messageboard:
·         Swear or use language which is obscene, threatening, sexual, sexist, libellous, defamatory, or invasive of another person's privacy;

·         Use asterisks or any other symbols to hide or imply any swear word

·         Use any language other than English, or use any form of abbreviated text;

We ask uses to type words out in full in order to make posts easier to read, especially for people for whom English is not their first language.  Sure you may have been here a long time and know how things work, but for a long time stuff like this was not being picked up on because there was not a visible moderating presence on here.  There is now and we are making sure people know what their responsibilities in relation to the Forum Terms are.  Where they do not abide by them and we spot it we are asking them not to do that again.  We are trying to use a common sense approach in that we will ask users first not to do it again, but you are warned that continuing to break the Forum Terms will lead to stronger action being taken.  We only have so much patience!

rooneycr7:

 Despite you claiming not to be *** or xenophobic, i am still offended b your comment about the multinational fans. Don't forget that half of Old trafford would be empty if it wasnt for the multinational contingent, and united would be nowhere near as successful if it wasn't for the ' foreign fans '.

Yep, i agree, don't blame the multinational fans. Is it too hard to stretch a helping hand and share with the "foreign fans" your love for the club. If people are complaining that they are quiet then teach them to cheer and sing. I am sure its just a misunderstanding, foreign fans come from different culture, they r just not familiar and its no harm sharing with them the joys of supporting the club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fotmpIa0-EQ&NR=1

I would love Old Trafford to be like this

Le Roi de Manchester:

We sometimes debate on here what we call "gloryhunters" as though they have latched on to the club because of its success but I wonder whether it is actually the other way round - i.e. the club has (in competition with the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.) gone out to "snare" people as supporters. Once hooked they naturally want to attend Old Trafford and savour what it means to be at a game within the Theatre of Dreams but they have no cultural awareness of the fact that their presence demands proactivity rather reactivity. How could they know this perhaps?

 

 

Interesting point. Football clubs see themselves increasingly as competing 'brands'. United's 'brand image' is - because of our history - naturally enticing. Today clubs will promote their image to attract new fans. In days gone by it was probably left more to chance.

If you're talking too me, I have no problem with multi national fans, What I have a problem is people coming to Old Trafford (local or not) not singing, leaving 20 minutes before the end and spending the whole game taking pictures.

 Despite you claiming not to be *** or xenophobic, i am still offended b your comment about the multinational fans. Don't forget that half of Old trafford would be empty if it wasnt for the multinational contingent, and united would be nowhere near as successful if it wasn't for the ' foreign fans '.

The club decided to put part of the family stand in the Stretford End. This has affected the atmosphere there. We should move the family stand to North Stand, surely this can be easily achieved.

The atmosphere at OT is hit and miss to be fair. Against the City's, Liverpool's, Arsenal's and Chelsea's and against the big name European clubs in the CL i've always found the atmosphere to be really good (i sit in Stretford End lower) but against the so called lesser sides who we're expected to roll over with ease it can be really quiet and uninspiring to say the least!!

I don't think the annoying stewards who pester you to sit down help either even though there only doing there jobs, when we all stand up and sing it's great but when we're sat down and the team are playing poorly etc it's like a morgue at times.

Bringing back certain standing area's for those who want to be vocal like they have in Germany would help but i doubt will ever get the go ahead now that the Prem clubs have all seater stadiums.

This seemed to be a thread worth keeping alive a little longer because the Old Trafford atmosphere is a subject that crops up more and more.

I used to stand on the United Road terraces and revel in the great stereophonic effect of the Stretford End and K Stand in full voice - unbelievable. The frightening thing is that it wasn't that long ago, yet when I get to OT today it seems like a distant memory of a bygone halycon age.

When I question (to myself) why the atmosphere has changed so much I immediately think about the "all-seater" impact but then this is no different in other Premier League grounds so it does not explain things entirely.

What I do think is significant is the commercial impact of United's success over the last 20 or so years. Today, for me, Old Trafford "smells" corporate and commercial. I acknowledge the positives that money has brought the club and I do understand the pressures that come with the need to generate cash to survive by wringing every penny out of anything that can yield revenue. Of course the effect has been to spread the reach of the club to every corner of the globe.

We sometimes debate on here what we call "gloryhunters" as though they have latched on to the club because of its success but I wonder whether it is actually the other way round - i.e. the club has (in competition with the likes of Real Madrid, Barcelona, Liverpool, Chelsea etc.) gone out to "snare" people as supporters. Once hooked they naturally want to attend Old Trafford and savour what it means to be at a game within the Theatre of Dreams but they have no cultural awareness of the fact that their presence demands proactivity rather reactivity. How could they know this perhaps?

Who knows what proportion of the ground is made up of people in this category at any given game, but if United's global support is over 100m it has to be significant.

Added to this the ever-increasing cost of attending games (incl. cup schemes etc.) for regulars and there will inevitably be games that regulars will sacrifice for economic reasons - the ones that appear less significant in the great scheme of things.

With the advent of the ticket exchange in come the wider cohorts of supporter (fully entitled as members to be) and what do you have? A fragmented stadium with far less concentrated and proactive support than we had in the days of sardine-packed "pie and bovril" terraces, occasional bursts of song from one part of the ground that quickly fade and die and brief celebratory commotion after a United goal.  

And who do I blame? Well actually not supporters nor in fact the club but the headlong plunge of football into a commercial armageddon.

red irish:

Gavinio:

red irish:

I meant you are a local & you too according to some on here are part of the problem, hence i put (me) after Daytrippers

Ah right, completely misunderstood that.

At least you asked me anyways, instead of assuming i might have meant it as a dig & adding me to the 1st batch of cuts !!

oi gavinio...why do ya keep warning me mate????iknow how this thing works..Ive been here for quite a time..u know...may be thats y i prefer the lounge (if u know wt i mean)...no muppets...and true red devils ud find there...but this forum is improving...thank go we dont have the oooops problem now...or is it still there????

And coming to the point of glazers that someone was mentioning...I'd love if some sheikh comes and invests here and get rid of Glazers debt..i say a sheikh cuz no brit or american is buying anything nowadays..!!

Gavinio:

red irish:

I meant you are a local & you too according to some on here are part of the problem, hence i put (me) after Daytrippers

Ah right, completely misunderstood that.

At least you asked me anyways, instead of assuming i might have meant it as a dig & adding me to the 1st batch of cuts !!

red irish:

I meant you are a local & you too according to some on here are part of the problem, hence i put (me) after Daytrippers

Ah right, completely misunderstood that.

Gavinio:

red irish:

5. The locals ( Gavinio & SimplyRed ) !!

Where did I blame locals? 

It's probably a combination of everything you listed though.

I meant you are a local & you too according to some on here are part of the problem, hence i put (me) after Daytrippers

Im not having a go at anyone, its just im high lighting how certain groups are blaming other groups, which makes me ask the question are we United ?

I say no we're far from a united bunch of fans..... this thread proves it.

Especially when you see the excuse of the Daytrippers & Tourists buying up all the tickets & the real hardcore fans not able to attend games, there is empty seats all over the ground lately, so that excuse does'nt wash with me.

I find it hard to understand why no one has mentioned the fact that we're in a recession though.