MUFCchampions99:

simply red i would just like to thank you for these great posts you have been putting into this ...they have shut lots of people up and you have got most of what you say correct (in my opinion).also you have worded it all very well considering how much you have wrote

They haven't shut us up at all. Berbatov has just shown everyone today why he is such a good player and why we need him.  Most of the papers and TV have voted Berbatov as man of the match and it is well deserved in my opinion.

Simply_Red666x2:

Exactly fella, just hope see more of of them days as since hes joined they have been few and far between imo, we all know what Rooney can do on his day and them days come along more often than Berbatov's so far anyways....And yes it was going that way on Fri wernt it haha but i think we have got or points across and we realise one another stance and issues on that and i like to think there a mutual respect between 2 heavyweights lol but i ruddy knew it like i said, it was written in the stars that both Dimi and Roo would both score vs Blackburn....s0ds law lol....

All i ask for now is for Berbatov to carry on from yesterday same goes for Wazza (we all know he can) and thats what i wish from Dimi as you say his goal stand alone in the quality stakes........only a handful of players in world football could do that it has to be said....

 

Although, I think anyone who wants them to be consistent goal scorers is asking for trouble imo. I agree with your previous comments about how they're both the same people which is likely to mean less goals from both of them.

Exactly fella, just hope see more of of them days as since hes joined they have been few and far between imo, we all know what Rooney can do on his day and them days come along more often than Berbatov's so far anyways....And yes it was going that way on Fri wernt it haha but i think we have got or points across and we realise one another stance and issues on that and i like to think there a mutual respect between 2 heavyweights lol but i ruddy knew it like i said, it was written in the stars that both Dimi and Roo would both score vs Blackburn....s0ds law lol....

All i ask for now is for Berbatov to carry on from yesterday same goes for Wazza (we all know he can) and thats what i wish from Dimi as you say his goal stand alone in the quality stakes........only a handful of players in world football could do that it has to be said....

Simply_Red666x2:

 the only reason rooney doesn get slated is because he is a proven united player. we all know how good he can be on his day. as for berbatov, we havent quite seen it yet........

Hitting the nail on the head comes to mind....

Well if he's goal yesterday is'nt an example of how good Berbatov can be on his day, i dont know what is.... & there was no one shut up on this thread either aim or no aim ! I'm glad i spotted this i thought we sort of agreed to disagree on friday night !

ManUtdlova4ever:

 the only reason rooney doesn get slated is because he is a proven united player. we all know how good he can be on his day. as for berbatov, we havent quite seen it yet but i assure, once he shows that he means business and that he's a proven player for united, there wont be much whining on this forum. well, there wont be as much.

scholes is proven, people were saying he should never start again because of his bad performance against liverpool. rooney also played bad but nobody said anything.

ManUtdlova4ever:

 the only reason rooney doesn get slated is because he is a proven united player. we all know how good he can be on his day. as for berbatov, we havent quite seen it yet but i assure, once he shows that he means business and that he's a proven player for united, there wont be much whining on this forum. well, there wont be as much.

scholes is proven, people were saying he should never start again because of his bad performance against liverpool. rooney also played bad but nobody said anything.

 the only reason rooney doesn get slated is because he is a proven united player. we all know how good he can be on his day. as for berbatov, we havent quite seen it yet........

Hitting the nail on the head comes to mind....

 the only reason rooney doesn get slated is because he is a proven united player. we all know how good he can be on his day. as for berbatov, we havent quite seen it yet but i assure, once he shows that he means business and that he's a proven player for united, there wont be much whining on this forum. well, there wont be as much.

Simply Red, I dont think anyone was turning on Rooney, I made a reference to Rooney when I had said that when he has an off game no one complains, but when Berbatov does everyone seems to. Like I said before Rooney is one of my favourite players. But I think people were only using the comparison that in some peoples eyes, not necessarily yours, its one rule for some players another rule for others

Thank you fella but this debate has run and run......and run....and run lol....and nobody has really come to a conclusion that im right...lol im joking there before i get the verbal bullets...and its not my aim to shut people up to be honest, this place needs debates and general issues about the team,form,way of play etc etc.... as if it aint got that then it will be stuck with the doo gooders who take more effort in other things than actually talking about United...

Simply_Red666x2:

Someone asked me this:

Again, I wonder -  no one seems to be interested in asking themselves what kind of love has overtaken Roonye's desire to score goals, no one seems to care, eh ?

 

Well i tell you shall i...

 

Rooney since he joined us has been immense. Has Berbatov? No.....

Rooney has been fine and dandy as he has been playing with players who actually make darting runs into channels and runs of the last defender, so he can pick a pass and thread it through the eye of a needle and get his 20 goals a season aswell, he provided most of Ronaldo's ammuntion and Cristiano didnt do to bad did he......Rooney cant do that now, as Berbatov dont make them runs, what he actually does do is the same as Rooney and drop deep in turn not leaving as much space for Rooney to do what he has been doing since he joined us, and the worse of it all, he is being asked to do that role of running in behind where he is not best all due to Berbatovs inept lack of breaking his neck to score, put himself about, use his build and get in the box.

If your happy with 2 forwards who do the same job, both not prolific then thats your choice but im not.....Our front 2 are to easy to mark look at the LFC game, its basic football knowledge that if you have 2 forwards to mark who like to drop deep all the time, you push up as they dont run in behind its not there natural game and inturn leaving no space for them to flourish, and if the oppositon succeed like they did at Anfiled in doing that the midfield gets suffocated aswell as there in nobody running in behind the space of defenders to relive pressure....so then smart a$$ does Berbatov add that to our way of play and since he has joined, has our way of play got better? I dont think it has...

Why are people all of a sudden seem to be turning on Rooney who has been worshiped since he joined.... Who has scored more this year and been injured? Rooney. Who scored more last year? Rooney...Who if played with a big, pacey forward who likes to stretch teams is in the world class category? Rooney (Berbatov is but he isnt a striker) and that is what Wazza needs to thrive, we had Ronaldo who done just that and more and nobdoy complained about Rooney then........only now are we getting people saying 'Wayne is average' bla bla bla

Ask ANY manager in world footballer who they would rather have Rooney or Berbatov? And it will be Rooney all day everyday, 24/7, 365 days a year.

I like Berbatov but when people start saying Rooney aint doing this or that, ask yourself why and i hope ive explained a possibility of why that is...

simply red i would just like to thank you for these great posts you have been putting into this ...they have shut lots of people up and you have got most of what you say correct (in my opinion).also you have worded it all very well considering how much you have wrote

alex_ghv:

 Hah-aahhhh,good point. Is Berba actually playing as a striker? Don't think so! Somebody should fill the gap... So, why would you expect only goals from him?

are you saying good point to your own post or what? lol

 Hah-aahhhh,good point. Is Berba actually playing as a striker? Don't think so! Somebody should fill the gap... So, why would you expect only goals from him?

  I guess, we should exchange # 9 with ... # 11 or # 8 :) Berba was playing far away from the box untill now..

 

You've got a point there Mick (not a new joke but it's funny mate), about the boots, there's no shock absorption and on the hard surface that takes its toll on the legs.

We all expect Rooney to come up trumps for us even when he's not playing particularly well, and he usually does. His lapse in form is more evident when he fails to rescue a game for us with either a goal or an opportunity for someone else to score. He can take the pressure and usually does something with it.

What we saw against Blackburn was a smarter Rooney than in the last few games. He and Berba can get a system down, bring Valencia into a position to score as well, I'd hope Nani could do the same but it may be Obertan there soon and he'd be much quicker.

There are loads of options and all the potential and talent there, they've just got to hone it as a team, get sharper, be that extra bit better. It's always got to be improving and we've got to see the improvements on the pitch.