I have to agree to a certain extent. There is no doubt that Nani is a class player and at the moment he is lacking a bit of confidence which is very clear to see. What will or wont help him is the emergence of Obertan. When Obertan came on he looked more assured and composed on the ball where as Nani lacked those two things. In my opinion, Nani needs to show his true potential and start playing the way he knows he can. We have good quality wingers and competition is very fierce. I think Nani will take a back seat now and this will allow Obertan to make a name for himself.

Yes, he is poor. Lets Sell, him to birmingham Becous, he realy sucks.

Maybe Valencia would accept 15 mil. + Nani for Silva - this way they will get cash that they need and will not have to look for a Silva replacement.  This will also be good for Nani becuse he will join a new team - have a fresh start - and the chance to be a hero and a fan's favorite.

 

Good posts, Iker and Omar. It's too bad that some interpret your posts as slating, they're not. Not that everyone has to agree but the forum is about opinons and constructive debating. Most fans would love to see the lad succeed... thus far, as said, he has been inconsistent and much more. In the end, it doesn't matter what our opinions are or aren't; it's up to the gaffer - it'll be his decision when it comes to Nani or any other player on the squad.

I'll give you a pretty good summar of Nani.

Nani and Anderson came to us, both had huge raw ability, lot's of potential and for two seasons Anderson worked his bum off, adapting his game to the premier league, doing the dirty work, tackling, chasing back, becoming a team player, almost keeping himself and his own ability on a leash, sacrificing his own personal glory for the team. This season however, Anderson has started to bring his own brand of football to his game, so now he's perfected and tightened his game up, he's able to free himself up more, he attacks more, dribbles, shoots, looks for killer passes etc.

Now compare him to Nani, he came to us and I think he wanted to do too much fancy stuff, the pressure was on him from the start to match Ronaldos flare, but Nani never seems to of perfected the basics, by now he should be solid, he should naturally know his defensive duties, when to run, when to pass, when to shoot etc... But he hasn't, infact, he looks like he's regressed instead of progressed. And I have to be honest, I think it's too late for him to turn it around now, I don't think he will fulfill his potential at all, his attitude and work mentality are just not good enough. I have no doubt we will see glympses of magic from him, but consistently for 90 minutes, 40 games a season? no chance.

My view, I'd sell him on ASAP. Get a good 10 million from him, maybe he'd do well at a smaller club where he plays more often, but he really can't start every week for United with some of the abysmal performances he puts in, you can only give a player so many chances. So, get him out, get Giggs, Obertan, Tosic, Llajic, Welbeck in there more often, or just sign Silva.

no he is not that poor people need to be patient with him the way they were with fletcher its not till last season that people started to really appreciate fletcher and he was at united a while before people started to really appreciate him so im sure Nani will come good not everyone plays there best football at 22

if you look at all of nanis goals from his entire career you cant say he isnt a team player look carfully and you will see that the shots nani takes because he cant get the ball to another player because of the opposition and that nani scores to get united on the attacking line up he is always going faward on the pitch and has a incredible shot he has a really good eye for the ball and will be a great player just needs time to fit in with the squad i think he will be best up in midfeild with hargreaves, anderson, fletcher & valencia because these 3 players have the pace that nani needs to work with and the skill aswell

 Well, being told that could be the next Ronaldo or whatever straight from when we signed him certainly didn't help. I mean, all of that pressure. Also, he lacks a lot of confidence at the moment, and he has done for a while. He should have been told to be himself, and do his own thing, rather than try and emulate Ronaldo.

Jay-Ray7:

That's what he does and he has made great progress thus far this season.

 Well thats some hell of a positivity there... and the point about his game time is somewhat valid till now, but his time is running out. Now can you please elaborate on the "great progress" hes made?

  All I remember is... he was good against chelsea in the charity shield. His performance against arsenal wasn't too bad given his work-rate in that game. His assist for rooney against birmingham was nice too and..... actually thats it really, now I hand the microphone to you sir!

juelz111:

besides you're completely ignoring the fact that when ronaldo came we were in a rebuilding phase and he was GIVEN opportunities to shine week in and out. nani came in the 07/08 season where he had to fight for a place up against ronaldo and giggs.. and that doesnt seem too easy does it? it's only NOW he's finally being given a chance to shine so he should only be judged as of this season. all im saying is wait till this season is over then you can judge him properly.

Totally, 100% agree!

People are forgetting that Nani was benched for practically the entire last season.

That really damaged his confidence.

Of course, the stories surrounding his future at the club don't help either.

He is finally getting a decent run in the first team and I think he is doing really well.

The boy deserves a chance, because people also forget that he is still at the tender age of 22.

They also compare him to Ronaldo sub-consciously.

He is not an out and out goal-scoring winger like Ronny was, but he will take on defenders, cut inside and shoot or stay out wide and put the cross in.

That's what he does and he has made great progress thus far this season.

Consistency and better decision-making will come with time as well as game time.

So, by the end of the season, we should've seen a reborn Nani.

We know he has the potential and we have seen that potential on the pitch and I have no doubt in my mind that he will soon fulfill his potential.

A lot of game time would be a tremendous help to him.

makaveli1:

 no nani isnt that poor hez great

its are fans that are so poor , lack of support when our players go through bad patches

and dont tell me that nanis has been here for 3 years to show what he can do,, all of last year he didnt play did he and in his first year he looked great and promising

maybe he should play jus behind strikers

  ok I don't wanna be labelled as a Nani slater cos my criticism is intended to be as constructive as it can get. but seeing this post I have a couple of things to say...

 firstly the whole fuss about not supporting him enough... Nani doesn't come on here on this forum and cry over his Man United future for what the fans are saying. The only way you can say the lack of support hurts him is if he is booed when he is playing on the Old trafford pitch. Now I don't even have the oppurtunity to go to OT (which I dream about all the time) but if I do go there I would never boo any player no matter how bad I think he is. Hes feeling the pressure cos he knows he isn't doing enough... the reaction of his substitution gave me a hint he does want to try n prove himself, but how much time does he need? he will get more Im sure but hes had a fair share of chances this season... and for me (and may others Im sure) he hasn't done enough! its not hating him, its concluding from what you have seen so far...

   secondly about a new position for him... again I don't really see it happening cos Sir Alex has always tried to see how well he does on the wings. He wants him to develop as a winger n not an attacking-midfielder. Even I am curious for what nani has to offer as an AM, but I just don't see it happening at all...

 no nani isnt that poor hez great

its are fans that are so poor , lack of support when our players go through bad patches

and dont tell me that nanis has been here for 3 years to show what he can do,, all of last year he didnt play did he and in his first year he looked great and promising

maybe he should play jus behind strikers

Omar Rooney_7:

juelz111:

sir alex ferguson? is that you?!?!

 Mmmm NO! Don't really get your sarcasm there, cos this is an opinion... if you don't agree with it then prove me wrong. Tosic is a natural winger, a natural left-footer, but the only guess I can make of him not being picked up over Nani is cos hes not physically tough enough for the premiership in Sir Alex's eyes...

juelz111:

 

Omar Rooney_7:

  Had it been Nani in either Obertan's or Valencia's place he would have thought "finally a chance to shoot at goal" without thinking for a second any other move.

 oh so now your a psychic too?

  No Im just a better observer than you. Nani link-up play with his peers is very poor and he rarely gets it right in the positions that were mentioned in my example... Again you can prove me wrong, you can give me any example of pure intelligent play by Nani in any game in his United career so far. One exceptional game that Nani had was the FA Cup win over arsenal 4-0 in which he made 2 wonderful assists and a smashing goal... but again Im not looking for his goals as much as for simply good intelligent football from him... thats the only example I remember of Nani's great vision, give me 3 more n I'll accept that Im short-sighted in saying what I said about him in the example I made.

juelz111:

besides you're completely ignoring the fact that when ronaldo came we were in a rebuilding phase and he was GIVEN opportunities to shine week in and out.

 thats not completely true... Sir Alex had other options, but since Ronaldo was always making such an impact whenever he played Sir Alex couldn't resist playing him week in n week out!

juelz111:

all im saying is wait till this season is over then you can judge him properly.

 Fair enough, but Im not the only one here whose patience is running out... some very respectable posters like Simply Red 666 too have reservations about Nani's ability. Im just drawing the picture from what I've seen so far...

 

Add me to that list.

If he got ruled out for the rest of the season... I don't think anyone would be too bothered - also in respect to the chances other players may get - such as Welbeck, Obertan and Tosic.

Wait until Ljajic comes in January... Nani wont get a look in.

 

juelz111:

sir alex ferguson? is that you?!?!

 Mmmm NO! Don't really get your sarcasm there, cos this is an opinion... if you don't agree with it then prove me wrong. Tosic is a natural winger, a natural left-footer, but the only guess I can make of him not being picked up over Nani is cos hes not physically tough enough for the premiership in Sir Alex's eyes...

juelz111:

 

Omar Rooney_7:

  Had it been Nani in either Obertan's or Valencia's place he would have thought "finally a chance to shoot at goal" without thinking for a second any other move.

 oh so now your a psychic too?

  No Im just a better observer than you. Nani link-up play with his peers is very poor and he rarely gets it right in the positions that were mentioned in my example... Again you can prove me wrong, you can give me any example of pure intelligent play by Nani in any game in his United career so far. One exceptional game that Nani had was the FA Cup win over arsenal 4-0 in which he made 2 wonderful assists and a smashing goal... but again Im not looking for his goals as much as for simply good intelligent football from him... thats the only example I remember of Nani's great vision, give me 3 more n I'll accept that Im short-sighted in saying what I said about him in the example I made.

juelz111:

besides you're completely ignoring the fact that when ronaldo came we were in a rebuilding phase and he was GIVEN opportunities to shine week in and out.

 thats not completely true... Sir Alex had other options, but since Ronaldo was always making such an impact whenever he played Sir Alex couldn't resist playing him week in n week out!

juelz111:

all im saying is wait till this season is over then you can judge him properly.

 Fair enough, but Im not the only one here whose patience is running out... some very respectable posters like Simply Red 666 too have reservations about Nani's ability. Im just drawing the picture from what I've seen so far...

Omar Rooney_7:

 

He is not premiership quality. And even if he may fit in a team like chelsea I just don't think hes the man Manchester United are looking for- not atleast on that left wing

The only reason he is picked over tosic is cause of his strength n the way he can hold the ball,

 

 

sir alex ferguson? is that you?!?!

 

Omar Rooney_7:

  Had it been Nani in either Obertan's or Valencia's place he would have thought "finally a chance to shoot at goal" without thinking for a second any other move.

 oh so now your a psychic too?

 

 

Omar Rooney_7:

 Ronaldo at 21 was a notch up in every department or primary attribute Nani has...

 how exactly did you come up with this? do you have a 'primary-attribute measuring device' that can skip through time?

besides you're completely ignoring the fact that when ronaldo came we were in a rebuilding phase and he was GIVEN opportunities to shine week in and out. nani came in the 07/08 season where he had to fight for a place up against ronaldo and giggs.. and that doesnt seem too easy does it? it's only NOW he's finally being given a chance to shine so he should only be judged as of this season. all im saying is wait till this season is over then you can judge him properly.