i agree... even if u are pressure mentally or psychologically, still that shudnt be a valid reason cos they practice corners during trauining or atleast shud practice it religiously just like penalty kicks, passing, shooting. Corner kicks is as vital as having free kicks. Its not a debate between whether a a corner wud be punched out by a keeper or not but a debate of atleast crossing it finely and decently into the box regardless if it be cleared or punched out. theres 50% probability it wud be converted to goal.

Great thread. It shud be stressed that players take corner kicks for granted. If only a team can perfect or atleast have a 90% accuracy at corner kicks then they wud have another source of scoring. Its really a big advantage and as for united, this is a big advantage cos we have players that are tall like Berbatov, Vida, Rio, Oshea, Carrick , etc. And if they practice to head the ball religiously then im sure it will be ALMOST perfect to score from corners.

BTW, i think Giggs for now is our best corner kick ***. yes, giggs. I have watched and learned that Giggs compared to any1 from united has a very decent accuracy in corner kicks and his conversion rates to assist from corners are quite high. But there are also players who has a great crioss and can be used to take corners like Valencia, Hargreaves (yes, he is), Obertan, Carrick. etc. But for now my number kicker for corners will be Giggs,.

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4-4-2:

Nani is the worst corner *** in the team

Nani is a great corner t-aker, hes one of the best in the PL. Look at most of last season goals from corners, they came from Nani.

4-4-2:

Also 90% of the time when Anderson takes a corner he takes a short one because he knows he cannot deliver a quality ball into the box.

Anderson is also a great free kick t-aker he can plant a ball on somebodies head. It was Anderson who set up welbeck when he scored against barnsley. OFF A CORNER!

i take 4-4-2 's side on this one. time and time again i have either seen nani t-a-k-e a corner that does'nt make the front post, or then clears everyone and sails past the back post. for a professional footballer getting paid thousands of pounds, he should be hitting the money most of the time if not all the time. (i would let him off on the odd occassion though, if they are generally good).

nani's corners sum up his time at United really, inconsistent. i hate saying it but it is true.

4-4-2:

Nani is the worst corner *** in the team

Nani is a great corner t-aker, hes one of the best in the PL. Look at most of last season goals from corners, they came from Nani.

4-4-2:

Also 90% of the time when Anderson takes a corner he takes a short one because he knows he cannot deliver a quality ball into the box.

Anderson is also a great free kick t-aker he can plant a ball on somebodies head. It was Anderson who set up welbeck when he scored against barnsley. OFF A CORNER!

The way Valencia can whip in a cross with great pace you'd think he would be the perfect candidate for corners.

But as said already the theory isn't always the practise (hope thats right)

I thought it was funny watching the big match last night, when Wazza headed over to take the corner Stewart said he wants to be involved with everything doesn't he.

Exactly, Red Yankee... give it a try, if you haven't, it isn't as easy as it looks. Sure you may get lucky once or twice but consistency is the issue.

i hate short corners as well, we seem to do them a lot. With someone like ferdinand and especially vidic in the team you would want to hit them on the head with it for certain as they score lots of headers, but we end up taking short ones. sometimes i have to say we can be very creative with our corners, just like the chelsea match at OT last year, which had nothing wrong with and should have stood as a goal, so at points it works, but we would score many more from pumping it in i think.

Nani cannot take a good corner at all, im not joking here but sometimes i can actually whip a better ball in. Giggs is better at them definitely, but one thing i would say is i am glad im not Rafael Benitez, never mind attacking corners, his team are woeful at defending them, at least we can defend our corners which is more important.

Tosic will be used some time this season im sure. His free kicks mainly are stunning, in the bracket of beckham you could say, i havent seen him take a corner, but i would expect its pretty deadly.

Carrick takes a good corner, but he's always in the box because he's seen as a threat because of his height. However, since there is no good balls coming into the box, it's sort of a false economy. It's a waste getting Rooney to take them, he should be floating around the box. Nani is inconsistant, about one good ball in to ten.

Without Giggs, we're pretty poor at all set-pieces. Time to give Tosic a chance?

But a good corner has to be at an ideal height (can't be a lobbing ball otherwise the player cannot generate power on his header, but can't be too low that it doesn't clear the first defender), away from the keeper as someone said, and carry a good swerve. Quite hard to take a good corner everytime. Even Giggs has been doing it for over a decade, yet he sometimes still sends a bad ball in.

 Bear in mind that the player taking the corner has to stop the opposition keeper getting his hands on it (and we're talking 6'2 plus guys who are jumping with outstretched arms - commandeering a mch bigger area than any other player on the pitch in this situation). The kicker has to try and avoid any opponent winning the header, which given they are also professionals, and in the case of centre backs extremely accomplished in the air. Plus, all a defender has to do is knock it away from goal, which is much easier than directing it not only on target, but past a keeper (and any players on the posts).

 Furthermore the kicker can't just drop it onto someone's head, they have to aim for space soa player can move and attack the ball with some momentum. Given that every team marks slightly differntly, the delivery can't be the same every time because the space will be different, so they have to find the gap at a pace where the ball can be attacked.

A lot of factors making it difficult!

4-4-2:

 This thread is about ANY team that wins a corner.  So the ref blows his whistle and points to the corner flag....Your team has won a corner... you clap, cheer, shout, stand up, you are full of anticipation....a goal perhaps....come on... but in reality  what happens.

It does not make it past the first defender or it goes out of play or it is kicked to the other side of the pitch too far for anyone to get onto...

So what is it that a professional footballer finds so hard to accurately kick a ball  some40/50 yards when not under pressure from opposition. These guys kick balls every day and are paid vast sums of money so why is it so difficult to make EVERY corner a real threat?

Well since we are talking about ANY team, I guess the issue is that while we the fans in teh stands and at home watching on TV think something is easy, if enough players are taking corners they way we think it should easily be done, then well perhaps it is not as easy as we think.

Anderson son son:

No, no and NO! Nani is the worst corner *** in the team! The only reason he takes them is because hes poor in the air, and not great at sitting outside the box to dink the ball back towards goal, so instead he takes awful corners that hit the first man every single time! He's done this at pretty much every single corner hes taken this season. 

My point exactly. Also 90% of the time when Anderson takes a corner he takes a short one because he knows he cannot deliver a quality ball into the box.

4-4-2:

 This thread is about ANY team that wins a corner.  So the ref blows his whistle and points to the corner flag....Your team has won a corner... you clap, cheer, shout, stand up, you are full of anticipation....a goal perhaps....come on... but in reality  what happens.

It does not make it past the first defender or it goes out of play or it is kicked to the other side of the pitch too far for anyone to get onto...

So what is it that a professional footballer finds so hard to accurately kick a ball  some40/50 yards when not under pressure from opposition. These guys kick balls every day and are paid vast sums of money so why is it so difficult to make EVERY corner a real threat?

No, no and NO! Nani is the worst corner *** in the team! The only reason he takes them is because hes poor in the air, and not great at sitting outside the box to dink the ball back towards goal, so instead he takes awful corners that hit the first man every single time! He's done this at pretty much every single corner hes taken this season. 

 true utd do lack in a good corner kicker, would be good for nani or anderson to do

 This thread is about ANY team that wins a corner.  So the ref blows his whistle and points to the corner flag....Your team has won a corner... you clap, cheer, shout, stand up, you are full of anticipation....a goal perhaps....come on... but in reality  what happens.

It does not make it past the first defender or it goes out of play or it is kicked to the other side of the pitch too far for anyone to get onto...

So what is it that a professional footballer finds so hard to accurately kick a ball  some40/50 yards when not under pressure from opposition. These guys kick balls every day and are paid vast sums of money so why is it so difficult to make EVERY corner a real threat?