I don't like the chant but at the end of the day it's football the fans give the opposition abuse taking peoples season tickets off them will not help matters and i wonder if there will be legal implications for the club if they do as fans spend a lot of money on their season tickets.

all this is going to achive is turning some of the fans against united and we have already lost a lot of fans after the glazer's took over. also the negative fans will become even more negative about the club.

something needs to be done but don't alienate the fans it could do more harm than good.

mufc_for_life2:

can anyone tell me how the song goes?

thanks

No, I am happy to say I can't.  I do know what it's about though, which is enough for me. 

Perhaps those who started it would benefit from living next door but-one to the sort of lowlife they are calling Wenger (as I have to do), then they would really know what they are talking about.  Unfortunately this animal cannot be removed because he has served his time (well, half of it anyway), got off with the second "incident" and owns his own house. What makes me feel even worse is that I once told my daughter off for being rude to him because she said she didn't like him.     

I'm sorry for going on about this, but it's something I feel very strongly about and it's a subject which is in no way, shape or form funny!!! 

can anyone tell me how the song goes?

thanks

Aragon:

Sorry Mikael, I don't agree at all with you on this one.  The song is a disgrace to the United supporters who sing it and to Manchester United Club as a whole.  What they are calling Wenger is one of the lowest forms of human life imaginable (well in my opinion it is) and should not be bandied about in songs on a football pitch, especially when very young children are watching.  It's like when something really nasty happens, a child goes missing or worse, the next thing you know the text messages start arriving making a joke of the whole sorry business.  Nothing is guaranteed to enrage me more.  How would some of these mutants like it if it was their child I wonder?   

The song for Vida is equally offensive given what happened in that beautiful country but by singing it, the fans are only demonstrating their lack of intelligence regarding exactly what atrocities go on in the world.  Unfortunately for the people of the former Yugoslavia they had no oil fields or the whole sorry mess would have been brought to an end long before so many lost their lives, of that I'm quite sure.  

A lot of the fans live with their heads up their backsides.  Unfortunately I think this is a sign of the times but its not funny and its not clever.  I could quite happily punch the warbling tos-sers who sing that Munich chant, which is one of the reasons I detest Leeds, however, I wouldn't lower myself to their level by doing the same to someone else.  There are many chants which could be sung about Liverpool for instance but I personally am not into that, I go to watch the game not insult everyone and anyone.  That's not to say that I'm not more than happy to sing about the opposition's inadequacies and how rubbish they are.    

I wrote a post a while ago about coming off the motorway one night at Stretford on my way home from work.  As we turned left to go towards Altrincham there was an enormous field which had belonged to a farmer for years and it was absolutely full of dead cabbages, there were hundreds of them.  Someone (definitely Manchester United fans) had nailed a huge banner to the fence surrounding the field saying "Welcome to the Kippax".  Now that was funny. 

Today's humour, no thanks it turns my stomach and no, I'm not some miserable old geezer out to spoil everyone's fun, I just think the game itself is above that type of humour and let's face it, most of Man United's rivals have more than enough deficiencies and problems within their teams to sing about. 

That's what I call a well expressed reply!

Those that say 'it's only a joke' or 'people don't mean anything by it' need to ask themselves - if you don't mean anything then why bother saying it? Crowd behaviour is often cowardly. If you wouldn't say the same thing directly to him if you met him face to face, then you know it's not right, so there's no excuse. Some things are not a joke.

Sorry Mikael, I don't agree at all with you on this one.  The song is a disgrace to the United supporters who sing it and to Manchester United Club as a whole.  What they are calling Wenger is one of the lowest forms of human life imaginable (well in my opinion it is) and should not be bandied about in songs on a football pitch, especially when very young children are watching.  It's like when something really nasty happens, a child goes missing or worse, the next thing you know the text messages start arriving making a joke of the whole sorry business.  Nothing is guaranteed to enrage me more.  How would some of these mutants like it if it was their child I wonder?   

The song for Vida is equally offensive given what happened in that beautiful country but by singing it, the fans are only demonstrating their lack of intelligence regarding exactly what atrocities go on in the world.  Unfortunately for the people of the former Yugoslavia they had no oil fields or the whole sorry mess would have been brought to an end long before so many lost their lives, of that I'm quite sure.  

A lot of the fans live with their heads up their backsides.  Unfortunately I think this is a sign of the times but its not funny and its not clever.  I could quite happily punch the warbling tos-sers who sing that Munich chant, which is one of the reasons I detest Leeds, however, I wouldn't lower myself to their level by doing the same to someone else.  There are many chants which could be sung about Liverpool for instance but I personally am not into that, I go to watch the game not insult everyone and anyone.  That's not to say that I'm not more than happy to sing about the opposition's inadequacies and how rubbish they are.    

I wrote a post a while ago about coming off the motorway one night at Stretford on my way home from work.  As we turned left to go towards Altrincham there was an enormous field which had belonged to a farmer for years and it was absolutely full of dead cabbages, there were hundreds of them.  Someone (definitely Manchester United fans) had nailed a huge banner to the fence surrounding the field saying "Welcome to the Kippax".  Now that was funny. 

Today's humour, no thanks it turns my stomach and no, I'm not some miserable old geezer out to spoil everyone's fun, I just think the game itself is above that type of humour and let's face it, most of Man United's rivals have more than enough deficiencies and problems within their teams to sing about. 

[Great reply, but please don't avoid the swear filter.  Post amended accordingly where indicated.  Thanks.  Gavinio]

Gavinio:

You can't eject thousands of people in one foul swoop!

You dont need to eject a single person...after the next match just let the new spread around that the stewards have confiscated the season tickets of 27 fans for offensive chanting. The fear of losing their hard earned/paid season tickets would be sufficient to discourage most of the rest. Coupla pics to reinforce this....

A single person is smart (mostly) and difficult to convince whereas crowds are dumb and easy to manipulate !!!

This is a step forward and I am glad we took it first. We should also request other teams to stop Munich themed chants !!!

SAF is the best manager. He deserves Respect from other managers.....

Many football songs are nasty and offensive. It's all part of the football culture, I suppose. On the other hand, some of them are quite funny, even if they're tasteless.

The Wenger one is just stupid though. He clearly ISN'T what the song says he is - and it's not humourous. So what's the point?

I'm all in favour of stamping it out, along with the ridiculous Adebayor song.

I don't like having experienced 20 years of Liverpool, city and Leeds fans singing about the Munich Air Crash either. Any chance of a campaign to ban that one? No, didn't think so.

Step in the right direction though.

So that song is wrong, but singing about burning people (dead or alive?) in Build a bonfire or the reference to the Yugoslav wars where over a 100.000 civilians were killed in a song for our own player Nemanja Vidic isn't as bad?

I'm not defending the Wenger chant, but it's pretty harmless even though it's not classy at all.

na that chant is so wrong man. which idiot would sing it though?

Himann:

I think the chant isn't done in a serious tone. Having said that its a nasty thing to call him as I think he's a manager worth respecting when you look at "clowns" like Rafa running around these days.

I don't think you can say how the tone is when you're talking about crowd behaviour. There can always be a minority who enjoy the nastiness. The point is that some things are beyond a joking matter and this is one of them. You make a better point when you mention respect.

inghamMUFC93:

was my post edited?

i remember using a word that was sure to get encrypted but now see the word clowns appear,unless this uni work is slowing my mind down, i have a feeling i've been edited by a MOD?

Yes, I edited it.  Couldn't reply last night because I was getting constant timeout errors.

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Where I see this taking place I wil edit the post accordingly.  You have to remember that this forum is open to people of all ages.  The foul language is one of the reasons I will not let my son view these forums yet.

I think the chant isn't done in a serious tone. Having said that its a nasty thing to call him as I think he's a manager worth respecting when you look at "clowns" like Rafa running around these days.