silvertoes:

clearly it wasnt a deliberate from Evans..

Wsnt deliberate...but was a red card..

ArPanRaI:

Is there any penalty for Ref for wrong decisions and [deleted] play like today, like if managers are wrong they get fine or banned from touchline, same to player.

[Cut out the swearing on this forum please. TakenAsRed].

ArPanRal,

Cut out the swearing on this forum please. Thank you.

clearly it wasnt a deliberate from Evans..

This Referee saga must just come to the end! I'm sorry to say that, but we can't blame referee every time we loose.

Yes there are mistakes from refs all around the world and there aways will be. But we can't score all our goals from pens and fauls and wait for referee to give them to us!

If we can't score goal the problem is not in referee the problem is in all our team. And today we lost not because of referee, but because we played for draw, not for win.

oh yeah...here we go again..blaming the ref...how many of u saw Evans tackle on Drogba...Evans deserved to be sent off...u should thank the ref he didnt send him off cuz otherwise it was all over for us..the fact that we were still 11 men on the pitch gave us a chance till the last second...stop bein naive all of ya...ur giving the right example of y u all are called glory-hunters...We were the better side today by far..but the better side doesnt always win...disaapointed cuz we deserved atleast a point....accept the result and move on..!!!!  

Is there any penalty for Ref for wrong decisions and [deleted] play like today, like if managers are wrong they get fine or banned from touchline, same to player.

[Cut out the swearing on this forum please. TakenAsRed].

Every single one of our players can hold there heads high today, we were excellent and we only lost due to ANOTHER pathetic reffering display going against us, its getting beyond a joke now it really is.

We go away from home to the most formidable ground form wise in the country, against the most on form team, against a striker who is the hottest in europe with our 2 first choice centre halfs missing, we dominate the game, stop Chelsea playing, make them look ordinary but we lose due to the inept decisions of the ref!!

We had a stone wall penalty turned down (same as midweek when Fletcher got booked for diving which is a disgraice), the ref gives a free kick when Cole has just litterally jumped into Fletcher after winning the ball and then just to take the biscuit, Drogba drags down Brown (refs view was blocked as he couldnt be botherd to move) while also Drogba should of been flaged for interfering with play while being in a offside posistion after dragging our centre half to the floor.....i mean come on.... WTF!!!

Its no use us at the moment setting up, playing out of our skins with injuries, controlling a game only for all our hard work to be taken away by the man in black who game by game are just getting worse with United. Lfc game should of had a pen and Carragher should of been sent of (did the same a week later vs Fulham and he gets sent off), we have a stone wall penalty on Tuesday turned down and then we get a player booked for diving lol and now today when we have played brilliantly whether some on here like to think differently and we get done by the ref again....you cant write this stuff, injustice is not the word and i really do think Sir Alex's moan about Mr Wiley is paramount in these inept refs we have been having making big calls against us.

Ive been on the genreal discussion board and noticed a thread saying 'Valencia is poor' well wtf was that dude watching? He had A.Cole in a spin all game, more so than i have ever seen a certain Ronaldo ever did to Cole, he didnt give Cole a minutes peace and he was fanstastic today so i have no idea what the poster was on about. Anderson was brilliant and did exactly what the boss asked, Fletcher and Carrick dominated (not bad for a midfield so many in here have written of dont you think) Rooney did what he could up front on his own getting some half chances and making something out of nothing, Evra showed A.Cole how its done and Brown and Evans were mountains and basically didnt give the most in form striker in europe a sniff....all in all the lads were brillaint but we were robbed plain and simple.

Now Giggs has been immense and was in parts in this game, but i really do think he stayed on to long as he was tiring around 60minute mark and the right side of Chelsea was there for the taking as soon as Obertan came on that was evident, not blaming anyone but Ryan could of been brought of sooner for a fresher pair of legs.

NOBODY and i mean that, NOBODY can have any complaints about our players today they done everything they could only we got done by Atkinson simple as that. United went into this game with patchy form, missing our 2 first choice centre halfs and Berbatov injured against a team who have been solid and efficient all season, on form, scoring for fun and playing at home and we dominated........only problem is we didnt get a result and it was down to Martin Atkinson...nothing else.

The lads can hold there head high no question about that.

 Clear Penalty, Simulation, offside.

 I dont know what was the ref thinking!!!!! Rubbish!!! Poor standard of the refree cost us the game.

 I dont know what was the ref thinking!!!!! Rubbish!!! Poor standard of the refree cost us the game.

 Clear penalty indeed, but the ref is not God and he made a mistake. 

He made a huge misstake which happens. It is not always easy to see every tackle, but you can't give a player a yellow card for diving when you don't see the situation.

Only for the Europa League at the moment.

Correct me if I am wrong. I thought Michel Platini's grand idea was to have another official behind each goal for UEFA games?

If a manager made a mistake like the Fletcher penalty decision, he'd be sacked, it's about time they brought technology into this game, no more poor decisions or arguing about the ref being biased.