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  • 16 Dec 2009 3:04 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    Selase:

     He now gives not give crosses, instead he cuts the ball down the back of the strikers making it impossible for outside the 18 shots on goals or long curly shots

     

    Ouch.

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  • 16 Dec 2009 2:51 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    baller89:

    MaxShalamar:
    No point in putting crosses in if the lazy bloke can't make runs into the box 

    What are you talking about? Is he suppose to make a cross and then catch it in the box, he is not superman nobody can do that that's like claiming players are lazy for not flying it's stupid.

     

    He's talking about Berbatov Hmm

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  • 16 Dec 2009 2:02 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    Valencia is a right winger by nature but has been moving in as a third striker a bonus.  He has more accurate crosses than any of the wingers at the moment and is to be feared a striker as well.  He is not selfish and gives the ball to anyone that may have a better chance at scoring for the TEAM and he also takes his chances and cashes in on them.  I believe anyone would have had a hard time adjusting to that position but let's remember, futbol is not as it was, players are multifuncional and if they work, like Valencia, in those spots that they play well we should encourange them to keep getting better.  I for one love Valencia's speed and accuracy.  I've seen him grow and become more confident, he is undoubtedly the best player the team has signed this past year. 

     

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  • 16 Dec 2009 2:01 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    JCINVENCIBLE:

     

    I beleive  you are crazy for ronaldo, you must have to think that VALENCIA is not ronaldo of course but he is in the way to be the best, just live him to do what know, I can not express what I would like to say thats wy I am going to tell you in sapanish. Yo no entiendo porque muchos de los fanaticos del ManU siguen tratando de compsrar a ronaldo con VALENCIA, por favor no lo hagan VALENCIA es otro tipo de jugador, solo tengan un poco de paciencia y lo veran, recien tiene 4 meses ya ya ha hecho 6 + 1 goles, miren el record de otros jugadores en su mismo puesto y ahi si comparen, dejen de soñar con su enamorado ronaldo el no esta mas en ManU asi que si son fanaticos del ManU apoyen a los que estan ahora en el equipo y si no cambiense al R. Madrid.

    Julio Cano hincha del ManU que va a ser CAMPEON ESTA TEMPORADA TAMBIEN 

     

     

    great post.. since most of us posters are spanish.. we got that..

     

    Dejar de ser loco y hablar en inglés.

     

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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:53 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??


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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:53 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    baller89:

    yogesh bul:

    where as valencia runs down the side line like a regualar winger and

    passes to the striker.. where we dont have a finisher.. 

     Nonsense we have excellent finishers.

    yogesh bul:

    rooney is great on the field, but he pays so much attenntion to defending too and is in 

    the middle of the field, he forgets hes the main striker

     

    How could he forget he's not retar.ded.
     

     

    ---------my friend i didnt literally mean he forgets, what i meant is that hes a hardworker not just upfront but in thew middle too, so hes not superman and we dont expect him to be, so he doesnt convert many chances.. ! 

     

    and finishers, we have excellent finishers but we arent converting chances.. 

    see the wolves match i appreciate we won but every1 knows many chances were missed.

    chelsea, villa we should and easily could have been up.

    we played far bette than the two teams.. ! 

     

     

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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:51 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

     

    I beleive  you are crazy for ronaldo, you must have to think that VALENCIA is not ronaldo of course but he is in the way to be the best, just live him to do what know, I can not express what I would like to say thats wy I am going to tell you in sapanish. Yo no entiendo porque muchos de los fanaticos del ManU siguen tratando de compsrar a ronaldo con VALENCIA, por favor no lo hagan VALENCIA es otro tipo de jugador, solo tengan un poco de paciencia y lo veran, recien tiene 4 meses ya ya ha hecho 6 + 1 goles, miren el record de otros jugadores en su mismo puesto y ahi si comparen, dejen de soñar con su enamorado ronaldo el no esta mas en ManU asi que si son fanaticos del ManU apoyen a los que estan ahora en el equipo y si no cambiense al R. Madrid.

    Julio Cano hincha del ManU que va a ser CAMPEON ESTA TEMPORADA TAMBIEN 

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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:47 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    yogesh bul:

     

                       [____________]

    [                                            \                  ]

    [                                              \               ]

    [                                                 \            ]

    [                                                    \         ]     RONALDO used to run towards goal and take his shots and be like the third striker.. 

    [                                                      O      ]

    - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - ------ - - - - - - - - - - - --                                where as valencia runs down the side line like a regualar winger and

    [                                                               ]                                passes to the striker.. where we dont have a finisher.. 

    [                                                               ]

    [                                                               ]                rooney is great on the field, but he pays so much attenntion to defending too and is in 

    [                                                               ]                     the middle of the field, he forgets hes the main striker... Like drog and torres, he

    [                                                               ]                               has the role in our team but hes

    ______['''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''']______________           always so hardworking that we dont get to score too many cos hes mostly outside the D... 

     

    well explained yogeshbul.....

    rooney is a great finisher no doubt abt that.. but the team has changed play becuase earlier it all used to revolve around ronny and rightly so.. 

    berba is great at those cheeky assists but  there is no1 to finish it.. we need a goal scorer infront with rooney.. 

    our 4-5-1 isnt going in our favour ( chelsea, villa )

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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:46 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    yogesh bul:

    where as valencia runs down the side line like a regualar winger and

    passes to the striker.. where we dont have a finisher.. 

     Nonsense we have excellent finishers.

    yogesh bul:

    rooney is great on the field, but he pays so much attenntion to defending too and is in 

    the middle of the field, he forgets hes the main striker

    How could he forget he's not retar.ded.
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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:39 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

    MaxShalamar:
    No point in putting crosses in if the lazy bloke can't make runs into the box 

    What are you talking about? Is he suppose to make a cross and then catch it in the box, he is not superman nobody can do that that's like claiming players are lazy for not flying it's stupid.

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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:36 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

     valencia has settled in very well and quickly.. 

    his pacy run ins on the wing has been great... he has the pace.. he defends well, runs back when he needs to nd wins the ball. 

    the bad part is he ONLY plays wih his right foot and is predictable most times.. the thing abput ronaldo was - 

     _____________________________________

                       [____________]

    [                                            \                  ]

    [                                              \               ]

    [                                                 \            ]

    [                                                    \         ]     RONALDO used to run towards goal and take his shots and be like the third striker.. 

    [                                                      O      ]

    - - - - - - - - - - - - -  - - ------ - - - - - - - - - - - --                                where as valencia runs down the side line like a regualar winger and

    [                                                               ]                                passes to the striker.. where we dont have a finisher.. 

    [                                                               ]

    [                                                               ]                rooney is great on the field, but he pays so much attenntion to defending too and is in 

    [                                                               ]                     the middle of the field, he forgets hes the main striker... Like drog and torres, he

    [                                                               ]                               has the role in our team but hes

    ______['''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''']______________           always so hardworking that we dont get to score too many cos hes mostly outside the D... 

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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:33 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

     Crosses or not he is playing good and scoring, and besides rooney and owen are short not tall, only berbatov 

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  • 16 Dec 2009 1:00 PM

    Re: Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

     No point in putting crosses in if the lazy bloke can't make runs into the box 

     

    Valencia is doing well - settled in quickly and scoring too which is a bonus - wingers are not only there to put in crosses but to stretch the defence too which is what he is doing 

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  • 16 Dec 2009 12:49 PM

    Antonio Valencia - What a Winger??

     

     I have a question that i would like answered about Antonio Valencia. Manchester United is a great TEAM, and we are a great team because we are not afraid to constructively speak about our weaknesses and we do so not because we want to destroy the confidence and effort of the players but it is because that is the way we have improved- you play well you are rewarded, you don't and you are asked to work hard until you are good enough. Antonio Valencia i must admit is one of the most difficult to comment about because in my opinion he is such a paradoxical figure- no matter what a player does, once he scores then we are all 'encouraged' to mederate our critique- because we are winning. He brings enomous strength and potential into the team on one hand and on the other he distracts the team. My question is this

    1. What is Valencia's role in the team? We are a team and everyone has an assigned role to play- a striker, midfielder, winger, defender, etc. My question is what is valencia's role in the team? Is he a third striker? he had 0% crosses going righ in our last game and in the previous, match 1 cross. Is he a goal poacher? and once he gets in the way of the strikers or adds to the numbers in the 18, where  would the space to shoot come from?

    I will repeat again that Antonio Valencia must play his premier role well first before he adds additional responsibility. Valencia must run the ball down the right and give intelligent crosses. He now gives not give crosses, instead he cuts the ball down the back of the strikers making it impossible for outside the 18 shots on goals or long curly shots since the players are forced to pass the ball Arsenal-styl in the 18 yard box. Valencia is on his way to becoming one of our greatest players but i think we will need to help him get there. otherwise if he's got such great scoring potential, let him play in the middle of attack and let us get a new winger on the right. Why do we get pissed off when Obertan or Cristiano Ronaldo( when he was with us) over elaborate on the ball at the right or left? it is because the forwards are waing for a  ......?  You goit it right for a CROSS
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