Pijo:

Captain Marvel No.7:

Pijo:

Captain Marvel No.7:

just seems you get shot down on this board by many for even daring to believe there's a player out there better than the ones we have.

Shot down? I assume by this you mean providing a contrasting opinion, based on fact and with supporting evidence? I have shown you with statistical evidence that the difference between the two is negligible, but apparently I'm being unreasonable to try and actually back up my claims, rather than just personal preference.

You didn't answer my question either, and I'd love to hear an answer; what more could Young have done to meet your expectations? Give me a ball park figure for the number of assists and goals that you think would have been acceptable.

Who gives a stuff about stats? My opinion is based on what i've seen with my very own eyes and to date Mata is proving to be a far better player.

Wonder what stats you'd be throwing at me had Mata joined United and Young went to Chelsea? Its speculation of course but fact is Mata joined a team who arent nearly as good as we are and still he's looked a far better player, far better. Just think, had he gone to a team with better players around him lets just say he'd be blowing Young's "stats" out of the water right now.

As for answering your question, if Young would have had the equivalent impact on United that Mata has had at Chelsea then maybe, just maybe he'd of met my expectations. Mata's overall performances have been way better, especially given Young is English, more experienced and a proven Premier League player. Thats why i feel he has struggled to justify the outlay on him atm.

That's not to say he wont ever justify it but right now Mata looks by far the better signing of the two IMO.

Who gives a stuff about stats? You have to, it's not optional, and if you don't then you're just kidding yourself. So we should just abandon the league points system shall we? Based on your opinion then let's give Swansea the Premier League trophy this year. I mean statistically they don't create or score many goals, but they play nice football so I guess that makes them better than us, right? Granted we create and score more goals, but that doesn't really matter does it? Because they are statistics.

You're entitled to your opinion, fine, but the difference between yours and mine? I can back mine up.

As for your claim about the stats not being optional....when United signed Phil Jones were there not defenders out there with a better 'statistical' record than Jones? I would say there will have been based on the fact Blackburn were struggling in the league. So my argument is why didnt we sign a defender with "better stats" if stats arent optional?

At a guess i would say it was more likely the lad's overall ability and temperament that Fergie saw as the reason for buying him rather than his stats.

Captain Marvel No.7:

Pijo:

Captain Marvel No.7:

just seems you get shot down on this board by many for even daring to believe there's a player out there better than the ones we have.

Shot down? I assume by this you mean providing a contrasting opinion, based on fact and with supporting evidence? I have shown you with statistical evidence that the difference between the two is negligible, but apparently I'm being unreasonable to try and actually back up my claims, rather than just personal preference.

You didn't answer my question either, and I'd love to hear an answer; what more could Young have done to meet your expectations? Give me a ball park figure for the number of assists and goals that you think would have been acceptable.

Who gives a stuff about stats? My opinion is based on what i've seen with my very own eyes and to date Mata is proving to be a far better player.

Wonder what stats you'd be throwing at me had Mata joined United and Young went to Chelsea? Its speculation of course but fact is Mata joined a team who arent nearly as good as we are and still he's looked a far better player, far better. Just think, had he gone to a team with better players around him lets just say he'd be blowing Young's "stats" out of the water right now.

As for answering your question, if Young would have had the equivalent impact on United that Mata has had at Chelsea then maybe, just maybe he'd of met my expectations. Mata's overall performances have been way better, especially given Young is English, more experienced and a proven Premier League player. Thats why i feel he has struggled to justify the outlay on him atm.

That's not to say he wont ever justify it but right now Mata looks by far the better signing of the two IMO.

You're entitled to your opinion, fine, but the difference between yours and mine? I can back mine up.

44unlimited:

It's called form people, everyone in the team has experienced a drop and a peak at one time or another. This is just his first season and he has been marred by injury quite a lot. His still improving, patience. The more games the better.

el diablo:

Young certainly isn't anywhere near as good as the likes of Mata or Hazard, but it could be worse, he could be Stewart Downing.

Pijo:

Captain Marvel No.7:

just seems you get shot down on this board by many for even daring to believe there's a player out there better than the ones we have.

Shot down? I assume by this you mean providing a contrasting opinion, based on fact and with supporting evidence? I have shown you with statistical evidence that the difference between the two is negligible, but apparently I'm being unreasonable to try and actually back up my claims, rather than just personal preference.

You didn't answer my question either, and I'd love to hear an answer; what more could Young have done to meet your expectations? Give me a ball park figure for the number of assists and goals that you think would have been acceptable.

Wonder what stats you'd be throwing at me had Mata joined United and Young went to Chelsea? Its speculation of course but fact is Mata joined a team who arent nearly as good as we are and still he's looked a far better player, far better. Just think, had he gone to a team with better players around him lets just say he'd be blowing Young's "stats" out of the water right now.

As for answering your question, if Young would have had the equivalent impact on United that Mata has had at Chelsea then maybe, just maybe he'd of met my expectations. Mata's overall performances have been way better, especially given Young is English, more experienced and a proven Premier League player. Thats why i feel he has struggled to justify the outlay on him atm.

That's not to say he wont ever justify it but right now Mata looks by far the better signing of the two IMO.

silvester:

I think Young is good enough for us.He was brilliant at the start of the season till he started to get injuries which hampered him he was on a great run of form.Hopefully now with Valencia out for a month at least Young will get his form back.

desperad0oo7:

and then he dives,,, when through on goal. that was embarrassing and infuriating. and his goal wasn't anything special, he's expected to finish from there and he should have taken it first time but chose to delay. vs a better defence he would have been blocked. Also, for the guy comparing him to Valencia... must be another joke. he's a good backup player, not much more. he clearly doesn't have the personality to fit in the team and it's evident from the fact that he doesn't seem to have made strong friendships in the team, at least it doesn't look like it. A united player should not be diving in those situations that was a disgrace he should have stayed on his feet and scored.