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  • 13 Apr 2012 6:05 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    eddie moroney:
    Ruud van the man`s main fan:
    it was only when the injuries came in, we started going off the pace until SAF introduced Carrick from the start against Swansea and thats when we started picking ourselves up.
    Eh Utd drew against Newcastle at home and lost to Blackburn and Newcastle away during the Christmas period so I don't characterise that as 'Picking ourselves up'. What I do consider 'picking ourselves up' is that when Scholes came back Utd went on to win nearly all their matches and only draw and lose one match in the league; which Scholes didn't played in. Now thats what I consider 'picking ourselves up!' Look at the website news. One post stating Scholes is playing this Sunday and another post where Dennis Irwin tries to play down the absence of Scholes not playing being the reason Utd lost to Wigan. Can't say there would be much of a fervor about Carrick playing as opposed to Scholes playing.

    Yep, the 3 games Scholes hasn't played in since he came back, we lost, speaks volumes.

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  • 13 Apr 2012 5:38 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    Ruud van the man`s main fan:
    it was only when the injuries came in, we started going off the pace until SAF introduced Carrick from the start against Swansea and thats when we started picking ourselves up.
    Eh Utd drew against Newcastle at home and lost to Blackburn and Newcastle away during the Christmas period so I don't characterise that as 'Picking ourselves up'. What I do consider 'picking ourselves up' is that when Scholes came back Utd went on to win nearly all their matches and only draw and lose one match in the league; which Scholes didn't played in. Now thats what I consider 'picking ourselves up!' Look at the website news. One post stating Scholes is playing this Sunday and another post where Dennis Irwin tries to play down the absence of Scholes not playing being the reason Utd lost to Wigan. Can't say there would be much of a fervor about Carrick playing as opposed to Scholes playing.
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  • 13 Apr 2012 5:38 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    probably been the best player since he has come back and to people who have said he has only played half a season then you dont realise alot of the other contenders have been out for long periods this season. Valencia has been out, so has carrick. evans has been there for alot of the time though but defenders often get overlooked in this sort of thing. In my mind scholes has been the player of the season. His absense from the team on wednesday proved how much of a massive player he is for us.
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  • 13 Apr 2012 5:34 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    garp01us:
    That's who I voted for this morning, it should say something to all of our other players about needing to up their own game! if I was say Carrick, Cleverley, or even Ando I'd be embarrassed to be considered second fiddle to a 37 year old.
    i see your point but in their defence Scholes is no ordinary 37 year old
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  • 13 Apr 2012 5:24 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    That's who I voted for this morning, it should say something to all of our other players about needing to up their own game! if I was say Carrick, Cleverley, or even Ando I'd be embarrassed to be considered second fiddle to a 37 year old.
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  • 13 Apr 2012 5:17 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    Ruud van the man`s main fan:
    mosley909:
    don't think you can give it to scholes, simply because he has only played 1/2 a season.

    i voted for carrick, not my favorite player by a long shot, but without him this season we would have been screwed, he has played nearly every game, has hardly put a foot wrong(except wigan yes yes...) and while i may not like he style of play(to slow tempo) he has done what he does brilliantly this year and held the midfield togther while players around him have been falling away injured or not been able to play every game because of age.

    he deserves it he's been a rock this year.
    Mosley, i have to say im impressed. If only there were rational fans who think like you do.
    rational fans are the ones who take the evidence into account and the evidence clearly points to scholes.just check eddie moroney's posts.the problem is people here are raving about certain players because they have improved from the consistently poor playing level they were at (evans, carrick).if it was vidic had been performing like evans this season people would not be raving about him like this.its purely because he has been so inadequate in the past that people are relieved to see his improvement.because scholes is so consistently brilliant he is unappreciated by ye so called "rational" fans.carrick produces a good display here and there and ye lose it altogether.it is the player of the season award, not the most improved player of the season award!
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  • 13 Apr 2012 5:13 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    Should definitely be Scholes, his influence gave us our winning streak since he came back and gave us the chance to win the 20th. The 3 games he didn't play in since his return, we lost.
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  • 13 Apr 2012 4:24 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    it was clear before he returned and it's clear now. Scholes = god

    give that man a statue

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  • 13 Apr 2012 4:16 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    Ruud van the man`s main fan:
    False. Carrick did not play the match that cost us our CL chances.
    Eh, he played in the Benfica 1-1 draw away. Played in the 3-3 draw with Basel in old tratford and the 2-2 draw in old tratford with Benfica. it's those matches that ultimately led to utd being knocked out of the champions league. Lets compare both Carricks season and Scholes season in Europe, domestic league and cup. Already seen his champions league results. 3 draws. The premier league. (Carrick) Utd 1-1 Newcastle old tratford. (Carrick) Utd 2-3 Blackburn old tratford. (Carrick) Newcastle 3-0 utd away. (Carrick) Wigan 1-0 Utd away. F.A. Cup. (Carrick) Liverpool 2-1 away. Europa League. (Carrick) Utd 2-3 Athletico Bilbao old tratford. (Carrick) Bilbao 2-1 Utd Away. In all those matches (except Liverpool) Scholes wasn't involved. Paul Scholes bad results in Europe, League and Cups. (Scholes) Liverpool 2-1 Away; Scholes is substituted when the score is 1-1. (Scholes) Chelsea3-3 Utd. Scholes comes on when Utd are 3-1 down. In the league Utd have dropped 11 points with Carrick Present. With Scholes in the Squad Utd have dropped 2 points. In Europe utd have been knocked out of Champions league and Europa league with Carrick present. Scholes wasn't involved in the champions league and didn't play in the home and away leg of the Europa league match with Bilbao. Not saying Carrick is the reason we lost the games above. Far from it. What I am pointing out is that Comparing Carrick to Paul Scholes this season is a pointless exercise. Paul Scholes Has made a much bigger contribution to the teams success than Carrick. And if you argue that Carrick played those games over the season thats not true as he only started playing in the 1st team at the end of November in the league. So, just over a month extra did Carrick Play more than Scholes in the league. Again. 11 points dropped compared to just 2. Do the math!
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  • 13 Apr 2012 3:51 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    mark.k.:
    mosley909:
    don't think you can give it to scholes, simply because he has only played 1/2 a season.

    i voted for carrick, not my favorite player by a long shot, but without him this season we would have been screwed, he has played nearly every game, has hardly put a foot wrong(except wigan yes yes...) and while i may not like he style of play(to slow tempo) he has done what he does brilliantly this year and held the midfield togther while players around him have been falling away injured or not been able to play every game because of age.

    he deserves it he's been a rock this year.
    Fair point. But most players only played half a season due to injuries....

    Scholes' impact has been unquestionable though. He has even helped bring out the best in Carrick.

    You are right, apart from ...maybe Evra, no player has played the whole season consistently, what with all the injuries..so Scholes does qualify to be voted player of the season. He salvaged our season.
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  • 13 Apr 2012 3:51 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    Tbh I entered the voting page and then looked at the players I could choose...and my god it is a difficult task.......................Johnny Evans.......(has truly stepped up after the injury to Vidic, like another player compared to a season or two ago)...................David De Gea..........(Im sure some of you may not agree but he has had some amazing games for us and my reason for wanting to vote for him is his improvement from the start of the campaign till now)................Michael Carrick.......(keeps things ticking on nicely in the midfield and deserves some recognition after a season or two where he was not up to his 07/08 best).........Rooney........(for all the goals he ahs scored and constantly working for the team)................and ofcourse.......Scholes.......(he made me teary eyed when he scored in his testimonial and he has been a true inspiration after coming back, making sure everything worked in the midfield and his pass success rate says it all)........................so there we go....im still unsure who to vote for!..............I apologize for the full stop spaces but stupid chrome paragraphs dont work on this site for some reason.
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  • 13 Apr 2012 3:45 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    i cant decide read a few arguments on here and everyone is valid i think i might go for scholes best january signing ever :)
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  • 13 Apr 2012 3:41 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    cliosport:
    not in any order but: Evans
    Rooney
    Carrick
    Valencia
    All deserve it
    this i agree with but i think valencia pips it for me he hardly puts a foot wrong :)
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  • 13 Apr 2012 3:23 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    mosley909:
    don't think you can give it to scholes, simply because he has only played 1/2 a season.

    i voted for carrick, not my favorite player by a long shot, but without him this season we would have been screwed, he has played nearly every game, has hardly put a foot wrong(except wigan yes yes...) and while i may not like he style of play(to slow tempo) he has done what he does brilliantly this year and held the midfield togther while players around him have been falling away injured or not been able to play every game because of age.

    he deserves it he's been a rock this year.
    Mosley, i have to say im impressed. If only there were rational fans who think like you do.
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  • 13 Apr 2012 3:11 PM

    Re: Scholes has to be our player of the season.

    People are saying that Scholes won't get it because he's only played half a season. Think of this: people are saying Valencia deserves it but he's been injured for a big chunk of the campaign and only really started to hit top form in December, only a month before Scholesy came back.

    Another main candidate is Rooney, who has been unplayable at times, yet was completely missing at others; Scholes has been consistent in each of his games since his comeback and I can't really recall a game in which he was out of his depth other than maybe the City game in which he came back (he wasn't even that bad, just some underhit long-balls)

    The only two who have been consistent all seasonish are Carrick and Evans. Carrick was the ever-present went our team was suffering from injuries, poor form and the demoralization of the 6-1. His solidness was a main factor to bringing us back to stability and he has been having the season of his life, but his impact was more defensive as his role is more to nullify the opposition rather than to score and create goals. It was evident that a spark was missing and Scholes has given us that spark and really brought us out of the water.

    Now for Evans: I think he is, along with Scholes, the main man to win the award because his season has been immense. After the red card during the 6-1, he never looked back; he racked up the clean sheets and put in strings of flawless performances and stepped up to the plate admirably in the absence of Vida. I honestly see him as a top-class ball-playing CB now and his composure and solidness has been crucial.

    And there you have it. Although every one of the listed candidates has been pivotal to our successes this season, I think Scholes and Evans deserve it most, closely followed by Carrick due to their consistency, which was something hard to come by of late. Also a shout out to De gea who has showed real class, maturity and strength of personality to recover from heaps of criticism as he did. He'll be a world-class keeper no doubt.

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