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  • 15 Apr 2012 2:03 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    mancrh:
    Colonial Red:
    mancrh:
    89cruefan2:
    Surely it would be easier to just sell?
    Won't be the first time we sent a player on loan before selling when we thought it'd bring in the buyers. Not many clubs would be after a defender with less than 10 apps this season.
    Could be the case but I doubt it. The games will help Fabio develop as a defensive player. I just hope it's to an English side and not Benefica as a sweetener for that overrated winger.
    For all the loans we had, it'd be the first time we sent a 22 year old who had his chances with the first team and we thought is going to be here for hte long run.
    He is also injury prone and it could be a test to see if he would be able to toughen up. You must have had some bad experiences with brazilians or you just hate twins lol
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  • 15 Apr 2012 1:42 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    Colonial Red:
    mancrh:
    89cruefan2:
    Surely it would be easier to just sell?
    Won't be the first time we sent a player on loan before selling when we thought it'd bring in the buyers. Not many clubs would be after a defender with less than 10 apps this season.
    Could be the case but I doubt it. The games will help Fabio develop as a defensive player. I just hope it's to an English side and not Benefica as a sweetener for that overrated winger.
    For all the loans we had, it'd be the first time we sent a 22 year old who had his chances with the first team and we thought is going to be here for hte long run.
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  • 15 Apr 2012 1:39 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    mancrh:
    89cruefan2:
    Surely it would be easier to just sell?
    Won't be the first time we sent a player on loan before selling when we thought it'd bring in the buyers. Not many clubs would be after a defender with less than 10 apps this season.
    Could be the case but I doubt it. The games will help Fabio develop as a defensive player. I just hope it's to an English side and not Benefica as a sweetener for that overrated winger.
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  • 15 Apr 2012 1:35 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    89cruefan2:
    Surely it would be easier to just sell?
    Won't be the first time we sent a player on loan before selling when we thought it'd bring in the buyers. Not many clubs would be after a defender with less than 10 apps this season.
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  • 15 Apr 2012 1:31 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    There is two ways to look at it, Fabio is going out on loan to maybe then be sold. Surely it would be easier to just sell?

    Or the second way to look at it is maybe Fergie wants to fast track Fabio's development by giving him the chance to have more games. With Evra starting to decline and getting a big older, maybe he sees Fabio as a future replacement?

    Who knows, it seems a tad strange considering the Fryers situation isnt sorted. I guess we will see what happens.

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  • 15 Apr 2012 12:37 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    Can fully understand Fabio going out on loan, he needs regular football but Utd need a left back as 60% of the goals Utd have conceded have come down Evra's side. Zecky Fryers apparently doesn't seem like signing a new contract along with Pogba. What's the matter with these youngsters, full of their own importance?
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  • 15 Apr 2012 12:35 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    Gavin2011:
    mancrh:
    Gavin2011:
    Didn't do Welbeck any harm and he was coming back to a team that was flush with Strikers. Sending him out on loan to a prem club hopefully will do what it did for Welbeck. Hes not going to oust Evra and if he gets injured Evans smalling or evan Jones could fill in.
    What does it tell you if he can't get past an off form Evra for even one league start, and that 3 center backs are better options as back up?
    If he does eventually go out on loan, i don't think he will return. Im not trying to put the boy down but i would honestly prefer those 3 in that position when we are up against it.

    He should take heart in what Welbeck has done. He could of been a casualty like Rossi or Macheda(hurts me to say) but he was brilliant at Sunderland and managed to muscle his past berba in the United team. Its a similar situation in that way of youth and aging but i somehow feel with Fabio's days are numbered if he actually goes out.

    Evra has that position to himself and as long as he does not do something nuclear it should stay that way. I want to see fryers in that position tbh. He may be the cb for the future however many cb have had to cut their teeth at fb.

    Been saying for a long time that he's not going to be our left back. Three reasons: 1. the defensive side of his game is a bit awful for a defender. 2. We need a settled back 4 and that's not going to happen when one of them is as injury prone as Fabio is. 3. Without two left footed wingers in the first team, we risk the option of having no left footed player on the left for some of the games. The fact Evra is playing non stop, even though Young is doing most of his job almost every game, says it all. I actually thought he'd get his chances as a squad player and a winger, but nothing more, and it doesn't seem likely now. I see Fryers as more of a left back to be honest, and if he's staying then he'd get his games, if not we'd sign a young left back. As for the comparison with Welbeck, can't see it, before his loans Welbeck had less games with our first team than Fabio has, and he was two years younger than Fabio when he went on his PL loan. The way I see it, if we send a 22 year old on loan after he got many chances for our first team, then he has no future here. As tough as it sound.
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  • 15 Apr 2012 12:24 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    mancrh:
    Gavin2011:
    Didn't do Welbeck any harm and he was coming back to a team that was flush with Strikers. Sending him out on loan to a prem club hopefully will do what it did for Welbeck. Hes not going to oust Evra and if he gets injured Evans smalling or evan Jones could fill in.
    What does it tell you if he can't get past an off form Evra for even one league start, and that 3 center backs are better options as back up?
    If he does eventually go out on loan, i don't think he will return. Im not trying to put the boy down but i would honestly prefer those 3 in that position when we are up against it.

    He should take heart in what Welbeck has done. He could of been a casualty like Rossi or Macheda(hurts me to say) but he was brilliant at Sunderland and managed to muscle his past berba in the United team. Its a similar situation in that way of youth and aging but i somehow feel with Fabio's days are numbered if he actually goes out.

    Evra has that position to himself and as long as he does not do something nuclear it should stay that way. I want to see fryers in that position tbh. He may be the cb for the future however many cb have had to cut their teeth at fb.

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  • 15 Apr 2012 12:17 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    IMO there's to scenarios that could happen: SAF will extend Fryers' contract and give him more playing time - or - he will sign another LB to rival Evra... The latter being the most likely
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  • 15 Apr 2012 12:16 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    For Fabio to improve and be a better player at this stage in his career the more games the better. Just waiting patiently for Evra to get tired, ill, injured or rotated will stagnate his progress. Rafael had it a lil easier breaking into the team because the right back slot pretty much was and is open for him to claim. It is a good idea once he goes to a team that plays him regularly. Let him go out and get some miles on his boots and come back better. I do firmly believe in is Fergie's future plans. SAF just does not want him stagnating whilst waiting for his chance here.
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  • 15 Apr 2012 12:09 PM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    Gavin2011:
    Didn't do Welbeck any harm and he was coming back to a team that was flush with Strikers. Sending him out on loan to a prem club hopefully will do what it did for Welbeck. Hes not going to oust Evra and if he gets injured Evans smalling or evan Jones could fill in.
    What does it tell you if he can't get past an off form Evra for even one league start, and that 3 center backs are better options as back up?
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  • 15 Apr 2012 11:57 AM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    Didn't do Welbeck any harm and he was coming back to a team that was flush with Strikers. Sending him out on loan to a prem club hopefully will do what it did for Welbeck. Hes not going to oust Evra and if he gets injured Evans smalling or evan Jones could fill in.
    At my signal unleash Rafael
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  • 15 Apr 2012 11:43 AM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    I'm sure we'll get a new left back in the summer but I just can't understand why Fabio needs to go out on loan? He has played a fair few games for United over the last couple of seasons including some that have been pretty important and yet he doesn't seem to be trusted this season despite Evra's dip in form. Is he really any worse than Evra?
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  • 15 Apr 2012 11:39 AM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    Jamie1979:
    Perhaps fergie is thinkin of signing someone else??
    Yeah this was my first thought, there has been quite a bit of talk about Cissokho coming in. Maybe those rumours have some truth to them...
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  • 15 Apr 2012 11:37 AM

    Re: Fabio and the left back position.

    find the fabio thing weird, he looked incredible at right back at the end of last season, and him and rooney where the only players who didn't look like school boys in the CL final.

    but this season he hasn't looked anywhere near as good, think it another case of youngsters not getting a run in the side so don't progress
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