Brittain 10:

He deserves to be in the first team

He obviously doesn't because he's not in the first team is he? He got his chance against Wigan and didn't take it. Also, when Welbeck come on against Wigan we looked like a better team.

In response to what you said Walters 14. I really Dk why SAF chooses welbeck over Hernandez. Perhaps it's to do with the fact people call him an impact sub. The reality is he's better during 90 mins, as he's constantly switched on whereas defenders can fall asleep and he will capitalise straight away. Welbeck on the other hand is normally ineffective when he come off the bech. I just feel it's harsh that someone who had a superb debut season only makes the bench. He deserves to be in the first team.

Brittain 10:

Walters_14_MuFc:

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

So you define being a better player by the amount of goals a player has scored? If so, does that make Grant Holt better than Luis Suarez?

We all know Welbeck needs to improve his finishing, but he does so much more for the team. If you can't see that then your in denial.

Hernandez contributes every but as much as welbeck if not more. For a start a striker tends to be judged on goals, even Alan shearer agrees with this in fact it's what he said. Secondly hernandez's movement is better than welbeck's, he is more of a handful for opposing defenders. As I've already said chicha us a 20 goal a season player and welbeck has just about managed half that. Also how many games has Suarez missed through suspension? 10, maybe more? Therefore it's understandable holt has scored more, and hoot has had a better season than Suarez too, what an awful example. You're clearly one who needs to wake up and smell the coffee if you think welbeck is better than chicha.

Brittain 10:

For a start a striker tends to be judged on goals, even Alan shearer agrees with this in fact it's what he said.

Wonder why SAF is starting Welbeck in front of Hernandez then?

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

No he isn't, his movement inside the box is better. But his finishing only looks good because of this movement that allows him to get a lot of tap ins. He scored 32 goals for us, yet the number of non tap ins are less than a handful. Only problem is that this season made it obvious he can't keep fooling defenders forever, which is why he's looking as poor as he does at the moment. Agaiin, I might as well use Berba in it, but that's not how it works and we both know it. The more experienced you are, the more clinical you get. Chicha has two, almost 3 years on Welbeck, he's more clinical but not a better finisher. And him being clinical gives us nothing when he can't help us actually get to the box. Again, when Chicha was Welbeck's age, he played in a much weaker league yet score just 3 more than Welbeck in the same number of games, and Welbeck played 8 of these as a winger instead of a striker.

what? Welbeck's finishing is shambolic at times, and as you said chicha's movement aids with his goal scoring. I bet chicha's shots to goals ratio is much better than welbeck's tap ins or not, that makes him a better to finisher. Besides who cares if they're tap ins? They have the same value as a long range screamer, and I'd rather have a clinical finisher than someone who works hard. It's goals that win matches after all.

mancrh:

Lennonunited:

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

It doesn't overly matter who's better; all that matters is that United look a much better side with Welbeck in it than we do with Hernandez.

Indeed, much better. Shown with the results really.

Recently, aka just a few games, I can name a hatfull of games where welbeck has been anomalous this season, for instance he was horrendous against qpr. Over the course of the season Hernandez is far better, I don't know what it is with you guys, perhaps you are blinded by the truth because welbeck is a young Englishman we all want to do well, so do I but we must face the facts, chicha is better.

Walters_14_MuFc:

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

So you define being a better player by the amount of goals a player has scored? If so, does that make Grant Holt better than Luis Suarez?

We all know Welbeck needs to improve his finishing, but he does so much more for the team. If you can't see that then your in denial.

Hernandez contributes every but as much as welbeck if not more. For a start a striker tends to be judged on goals, even Alan shearer agrees with this in fact it's what he said. Secondly hernandez's movement is better than welbeck's, he is more of a handful for opposing defenders. As I've already said chicha us a 20 goal a season player and welbeck has just about managed half that. Also how many games has Suarez missed through suspension? 10, maybe more? Therefore it's understandable holt has scored more, and hoot has had a better season than Suarez too, what an awful example. You're clearly one who needs to wake up and smell the coffee if you think welbeck is better than chicha.

Lennonunited:

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

It doesn't overly matter who's better; all that matters is that United look a much better side with Welbeck in it than we do with Hernandez.

Indeed, much better. Shown with the results really.

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

So you define being a better player by the amount of goals a player has scored? If so, does that make Grant Holt better than Luis Suarez?

We all know Welbeck needs to improve his finishing, but he does so much more for the team. If you can't see that then your in denial.

So you define being a better player by the amount of goals a player has scored? If so, does that make Grant Holt better than Luis Suarez?

We all know Welbeck needs to improve his finishing, but he does so much more for the team. If you can't see that then your in denial.

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

It doesn't overly matter who's better; all that matters is that United look a much better side with Welbeck in it than we do with Hernandez.

Brittain 10:

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

No he isn't, his movement inside the box is better. But his finishing only looks good because of this movement that allows him to get a lot of tap ins. He scored 32 goals for us, yet the number of non tap ins are less than a handful. Only problem is that this season made it obvious he can't keep fooling defenders forever, which is why he's looking as poor as he does at the moment. Agaiin, I might as well use Berba in it, but that's not how it works and we both know it. The more experienced you are, the more clinical you get. Chicha has two, almost 3 years on Welbeck, he's more clinical but not a better finisher. And him being clinical gives us nothing when he can't help us actually get to the box. Again, when Chicha was Welbeck's age, he played in a much weaker league yet score just 3 more than Welbeck in the same number of games, and Welbeck played 8 of these as a winger instead of a striker.

Welbeck is bad and he's the new heskey and days will prove my words especially on April the 30th and some mention that i'm jealous of Welbeck hmm..your 100% his relative.

mancrh:

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.

Well for a start he's a much better finisher. No one can deny welbeck squanders chance after chance, whereas chicha is renowned for his opportunistic finishing. Hernandez has better movement too, whilst welbeck is content to compete with a defender for a high ball, chicha acknowledges that physically he's at a disadvantage so had the brains to get into the space and stretch a defence. Hernandez has scored around the same amount of goals as welbeck, and consider how many games more welbeck has had. Hernandez has proved he's a 20 goal a season striker when playing regularly, welbeck struggles to make 10. I don't care about when Hernandez was 21, right now he is considerably better than welbeck, simple as that.

Come back when you know about football. Welbeck has all the qualities to be a top top player, yes i admit he finishing is a bit hit and miss, but this will come with time... How many goals were van persie, drogba, rooney cristiano ronaldo scoring when they were 21? when he plays the team play so much better... take Wigan game for example and bye the way you really need to watch the game if you think he's as slow as berba...

Brittain 10:

I personally don't think he's capitalised fully on the opportunities he's had. He looked excellent at the beginning of the season but doesn't score enough, Hernandez is much better IMO but I'd get rid of berba, macheda and Owen before getting rid of welbeck that's for sure, he shouldn't be sold yet just because if a drought, he's still just 21 bear in mind.

Chicha is better? We look like we're playing with *** man down when he's in the team. No fluidity and not enough bodies pressing the ball. By the way when Chicha was 21, playing at one of the worst leagues, he scored just 3 more than what Welbeck scored so far in the same amount of games in the PL and CL (same number of games, with Welbeck playing 8 of them on the wings). Tell me again how he's better.