I support neither,I support Manchester United,not Welbeck United or Hernandez United but Manchester United.

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Rob, if your life was so terrible that you had to follow a player half was round the world to blindly support him, despite a younger locally born locally trained player being better, I wouldn't expect you to have a firm grasp of common sense.

you shouldn't expect so much from the fan boys.

oh no!!!!! not another one of those "we're holier than thou because we were fortunate enough to be born locally" posts! get over yourself, i hate this kind of shi_t. why does your life have to be terrible to be a fan of a countryman that has done well in another country? would you not support rooney or welbeck if they succeeded in another country? you like boxing? you ever watch ricky hatton fight in the United States? Is your life that terrible?

Now that you mentioned it, I did think about following Lille because of Cole. Or not.

i don't understand the "following player stuff either" i don't think anyone in england would do that. not that english players ever go abroad! hah***

This And I don't understand slattering players stuff too, and some though guys says my life is terrible... Ha!

mancrh:

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Rob, if your life was so terrible that you had to follow a player half was round the world to blindly support him, despite a younger locally born locally trained player being better, I wouldn't expect you to have a firm grasp of common sense.

you shouldn't expect so much from the fan boys.

oh no!!!!! not another one of those "we're holier than thou because we were fortunate enough to be born locally" posts! get over yourself, i hate this kind of shi_t. why does your life have to be terrible to be a fan of a countryman that has done well in another country? would you not support rooney or welbeck if they succeeded in another country? you like boxing? you ever watch ricky hatton fight in the United States? Is your life that terrible?

Now that you mentioned it, I did think about following Lille because of Cole. Or not.

i don't understand the "following player stuff either" i don't think anyone in england would do that. not that english players ever go abroad! hah***

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put welbeck on Hernandez position an he score more goals

I'm waiting to see exactly where I wrote that. For *** with you fanboys, never ends.

"Put both of them upfront and that's 9 goals in 23 games for Welbeck and 10 in 25 for Chicha. And thats without mentioning the difference in the sides they faced"

Maybe my english is not enough good to understand why you decided to not count six games and blame only chica for the poor games, not the injuries, and you can yell fanboy all that you can, I don't take it at all

Nay, your English is very good, fanboyism just has a way of blinding people. Why should I count the games he was played out of position? Again, would you expect Chicharito to score when he plays on the wings? It's simple, yes or no.

Pretty simple, do you want to De Gea stop from the midfield? And what about poor games? Why you blame chicha? I acepted multiple times that Welbeck do it better than chicha, but, c'mon, the big change comes with Scholes.

It's amazing that you don't understand how you're supporting my point instead of putting it down. You're a tad slow mate. No I don't expect De Gea to do a job in midfield, just like I don't expect Welbeck to do a job on the wings, since in both cases you have players playing out of position. Is that clearer or do you need more help with this one?

And you still ignore my ask of why you blame chicha and not the injuries for the bad months

Haha well I don't know, maybe because he's been back for months now? Maybe because at least 7 other players, including Welbeck, were out for the same length of time as him?

Not at the same matches, but ok, De Gea has bad times too, but I don't blame him for those matches, anyway, you noted that the good flows has become with Scholes? That figure me the problem has in midfield, not in the upfront

What the *** does it matter which matches? It's not as if Chicha had too many of the harder games. De Gea is a young goalie in his first season, he was bound to make mistakes, which he did, he learned from each of them and he's a beast now. Chicha is in his second season here, he hasn't improved any of the points he's clearly lacking at (be it touch, passing, control) and the amount of times he got himself into offsides (40 in 25 games) is a joke. I love the bloke's attitude, but he needs to improve a lot, and fast.

not the hard, some of those when many of the players can provide crosses to him are out for some reason, but maybe is that your point, chicha is not capable to generate his own chances, but TBF, how could he improve with no minutes, and yes, the game against ***is not the one to trainee

Oh I see, you're claiming that Valencia, Giggs, Young and Nani, who together have 49 assists, were just out when Chicha played. Well done to them making so many assists in max 20 games then. What a coincidence. It doesn't work like that mate, Manchester United doesn't exist to make Chicha's game better. That's something you can only do in training. If you dont, and in the games you get you make us look like we're playing with 9 outfield players, and have many of our attacks turn into offsides, then you won't be ahead of someone who's doing a hell of a lot better, even though he's actually less experienced than you. That simple. No one expects him to do everything on his own, but it's 2012, and no team can afford a player's who can only hang around the penalty box waiting for a delivery. I actually thought he'd better this season, but I'm doubting now if at the age of 23-24 you can learn basic football skills. Still I'd say he has time for a couple more seasons until Keane starts pushing him for a place.

I resign my case with you, despite I say many times that I'm not a chicha fanboy and I don't claiming that he must be a starter, nor the team play around him, you still acting like a hater, haters gonna hate. and chicha still habe the best goals per minute ratio, with the same playmakers, please note how chelsea kicked off barca. Have a good night.

Actually, Berba has the best goal per minute ratio, sorry mate, again. And no of course you're not a fanboy, you attached yourself to this club because you love it's traditions aye? Why the *** should I care about Barca?

Right, Berba... I forgot him totally... I start support United for Munich, Solskjaer an for the red army firm, believe it or not

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el buey:

not another one of those "we're holier than thou because we were fortunate enough to be born locally" posts!

Im not born locally. No I wouldn't follow Fletcher if he moved to Chivas, I wouldn't follow Barry Bannan if he moved to Chivas. Also Hatton is scum, fat scum.

And I don't support United for chicha, and I wouldn't follow chicha if he moved to ajax, an yes Hatton is scum

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put welbeck on Hernandez position an he score more goals

I'm waiting to see exactly where I wrote that. For *** with you fanboys, never ends.

"Put both of them upfront and that's 9 goals in 23 games for Welbeck and 10 in 25 for Chicha. And thats without mentioning the difference in the sides they faced"

Maybe my english is not enough good to understand why you decided to not count six games and blame only chica for the poor games, not the injuries, and you can yell fanboy all that you can, I don't take it at all

Nay, your English is very good, fanboyism just has a way of blinding people. Why should I count the games he was played out of position? Again, would you expect Chicharito to score when he plays on the wings? It's simple, yes or no.

Pretty simple, do you want to De Gea stop from the midfield? And what about poor games? Why you blame chicha? I acepted multiple times that Welbeck do it better than chicha, but, c'mon, the big change comes with Scholes.

It's amazing that you don't understand how you're supporting my point instead of putting it down. You're a tad slow mate. No I don't expect De Gea to do a job in midfield, just like I don't expect Welbeck to do a job on the wings, since in both cases you have players playing out of position. Is that clearer or do you need more help with this one?

And you still ignore my ask of why you blame chicha and not the injuries for the bad months

Haha well I don't know, maybe because he's been back for months now? Maybe because at least 7 other players, including Welbeck, were out for the same length of time as him?

Not at the same matches, but ok, De Gea has bad times too, but I don't blame him for those matches, anyway, you noted that the good flows has become with Scholes? That figure me the problem has in midfield, not in the upfront

What the *** does it matter which matches? It's not as if Chicha had too many of the harder games. De Gea is a young goalie in his first season, he was bound to make mistakes, which he did, he learned from each of them and he's a beast now. Chicha is in his second season here, he hasn't improved any of the points he's clearly lacking at (be it touch, passing, control) and the amount of times he got himself into offsides (40 in 25 games) is a joke. I love the bloke's attitude, but he needs to improve a lot, and fast.

not the hard, some of those when many of the players can provide crosses to him are out for some reason, but maybe is that your point, chicha is not capable to generate his own chances, but TBF, how could he improve with no minutes, and yes, the game against ***is not the one to trainee

Oh I see, you're claiming that Valencia, Giggs, Young and Nani, who together have 49 assists, were just out when Chicha played. Well done to them making so many assists in max 20 games then. What a coincidence. It doesn't work like that mate, Manchester United doesn't exist to make Chicha's game better. That's something you can only do in training. If you dont, and in the games you get you make us look like we're playing with 9 outfield players, and have many of our attacks turn into offsides, then you won't be ahead of someone who's doing a hell of a lot better, even though he's actually less experienced than you. That simple. No one expects him to do everything on his own, but it's 2012, and no team can afford a player's who can only hang around the penalty box waiting for a delivery. I actually thought he'd better this season, but I'm doubting now if at the age of 23-24 you can learn basic football skills. Still I'd say he has time for a couple more seasons until Keane starts pushing him for a place.

I resign my case with you, despite I say many times that I'm not a chicha fanboy and I don't claiming that he must be a starter, nor the team play around him, you still acting like a hater, haters gonna hate. and chicha still habe the best goals per minute ratio, with the same playmakers, please note how chelsea kicked off barca. Have a good night.

Actually, Berba has the best goal per minute ratio, sorry mate, again. And no of course you're not a fanboy, you attached yourself to this club because you love it's traditions aye? Why the *** should I care about Barca?

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put welbeck on Hernandez position an he score more goals

I'm waiting to see exactly where I wrote that. For *** with you fanboys, never ends.

"Put both of them upfront and that's 9 goals in 23 games for Welbeck and 10 in 25 for Chicha. And thats without mentioning the difference in the sides they faced"

Maybe my english is not enough good to understand why you decided to not count six games and blame only chica for the poor games, not the injuries, and you can yell fanboy all that you can, I don't take it at all

Nay, your English is very good, fanboyism just has a way of blinding people. Why should I count the games he was played out of position? Again, would you expect Chicharito to score when he plays on the wings? It's simple, yes or no.

Pretty simple, do you want to De Gea stop from the midfield? And what about poor games? Why you blame chicha? I acepted multiple times that Welbeck do it better than chicha, but, c'mon, the big change comes with Scholes.

It's amazing that you don't understand how you're supporting my point instead of putting it down. You're a tad slow mate. No I don't expect De Gea to do a job in midfield, just like I don't expect Welbeck to do a job on the wings, since in both cases you have players playing out of position. Is that clearer or do you need more help with this one?

And you still ignore my ask of why you blame chicha and not the injuries for the bad months

Haha well I don't know, maybe because he's been back for months now? Maybe because at least 7 other players, including Welbeck, were out for the same length of time as him?

Not at the same matches, but ok, De Gea has bad times too, but I don't blame him for those matches, anyway, you noted that the good flows has become with Scholes? That figure me the problem has in midfield, not in the upfront

What the *** does it matter which matches? It's not as if Chicha had too many of the harder games. De Gea is a young goalie in his first season, he was bound to make mistakes, which he did, he learned from each of them and he's a beast now. Chicha is in his second season here, he hasn't improved any of the points he's clearly lacking at (be it touch, passing, control) and the amount of times he got himself into offsides (40 in 25 games) is a joke. I love the bloke's attitude, but he needs to improve a lot, and fast.

not the hard, some of those when many of the players can provide crosses to him are out for some reason, but maybe is that your point, chicha is not capable to generate his own chances, but TBF, how could he improve with no minutes, and yes, the game against ***is not the one to trainee

Oh I see, you're claiming that Valencia, Giggs, Young and Nani, who together have 49 assists, were just out when Chicha played. Well done to them making so many assists in max 20 games then. What a coincidence. It doesn't work like that mate, Manchester United doesn't exist to make Chicha's game better. That's something you can only do in training. If you dont, and in the games you get you make us look like we're playing with 9 outfield players, and have many of our attacks turn into offsides, then you won't be ahead of someone who's doing a hell of a lot better, even though he's actually less experienced than you. That simple. No one expects him to do everything on his own, but it's 2012, and no team can afford a player's who can only hang around the penalty box waiting for a delivery. I actually thought he'd better this season, but I'm doubting now if at the age of 23-24 you can learn basic football skills. Still I'd say he has time for a couple more seasons until Keane starts pushing him for a place.

I resign my case with you, despite I say many times that I'm not a chicha fanboy and I don't claiming that he must be a starter, nor the team play around him, you still acting like a hater, haters gonna hate. and chicha still habe the best goals per minute ratio, with the same playmakers, please note how chelsea kicked off barca. Have a good night.

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Rob, if your life was so terrible that you had to follow a player half was round the world to blindly support him, despite a younger locally born locally trained player being better, I wouldn't expect you to have a firm grasp of common sense.

you shouldn't expect so much from the fan boys.

oh no!!!!! not another one of those "we're holier than thou because we were fortunate enough to be born locally" posts! get over yourself, i hate this kind of shi_t. why does your life have to be terrible to be a fan of a countryman that has done well in another country? would you not support rooney or welbeck if they succeeded in another country? you like boxing? you ever watch ricky hatton fight in the United States? Is your life that terrible?

Now that you mentioned it, I did think about following Lille because of Cole. Or not.

el buey:

not another one of those "we're holier than thou because we were fortunate enough to be born locally" posts!

Im not born locally. No I wouldn't follow Fletcher if he moved to Chivas, I wouldn't follow Barry Bannan if he moved to Chivas. Also Hatton is scum, fat scum.

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not the hard, some of those when many of the players can provide crosses to him are out for some reason, but maybe is that your point, chicha is not capable to generate his own chances, but TBF, how could he improve with no minutes, and yes, the game against ***is not the one to trainee

Thats a poor excuse. United cross the ball more than any other team in the league. not to mention Rooney has scored tonnes with the same playmakers.

how many more minutes has rooney played with the same playmakers? thats an unfair comparison.

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but it's 2012, and no team can afford a player's who can only hang around the penalty box waiting for a delivery.

it worked in 2011, just 4 months removed. it can still work.

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Rob, if your life was so terrible that you had to follow a player half was round the world to blindly support him, despite a younger locally born locally trained player being better, I wouldn't expect you to have a firm grasp of common sense.

you shouldn't expect so much from the fan boys.

oh no!!!!! not another one of those "we're holier than thou because we were fortunate enough to be born locally" posts! get over yourself, i hate this kind of shi_t. why does your life have to be terrible to be a fan of a countryman that has done well in another country? would you not support rooney or welbeck if they succeeded in another country? you like boxing? you ever watch ricky hatton fight in the United States? Is your life that terrible?

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not the hard, some of those when many of the players can provide crosses to him are out for some reason, but maybe is that your point, chicha is not capable to generate his own chances, but TBF, how could he improve with no minutes, and yes, the game against ***is not the one to trainee

Thats a poor excuse. United cross the ball more than any other team in the league. not to mention Rooney has scored tonnes with the same playmakers.

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put welbeck on Hernandez position an he score more goals

I'm waiting to see exactly where I wrote that. For *** with you fanboys, never ends.

"Put both of them upfront and that's 9 goals in 23 games for Welbeck and 10 in 25 for Chicha. And thats without mentioning the difference in the sides they faced"

Maybe my english is not enough good to understand why you decided to not count six games and blame only chica for the poor games, not the injuries, and you can yell fanboy all that you can, I don't take it at all

Nay, your English is very good, fanboyism just has a way of blinding people. Why should I count the games he was played out of position? Again, would you expect Chicharito to score when he plays on the wings? It's simple, yes or no.

Pretty simple, do you want to De Gea stop from the midfield? And what about poor games? Why you blame chicha? I acepted multiple times that Welbeck do it better than chicha, but, c'mon, the big change comes with Scholes.

It's amazing that you don't understand how you're supporting my point instead of putting it down. You're a tad slow mate. No I don't expect De Gea to do a job in midfield, just like I don't expect Welbeck to do a job on the wings, since in both cases you have players playing out of position. Is that clearer or do you need more help with this one?

And you still ignore my ask of why you blame chicha and not the injuries for the bad months

Haha well I don't know, maybe because he's been back for months now? Maybe because at least 7 other players, including Welbeck, were out for the same length of time as him?

Not at the same matches, but ok, De Gea has bad times too, but I don't blame him for those matches, anyway, you noted that the good flows has become with Scholes? That figure me the problem has in midfield, not in the upfront

What the *** does it matter which matches? It's not as if Chicha had too many of the harder games. De Gea is a young goalie in his first season, he was bound to make mistakes, which he did, he learned from each of them and he's a beast now. Chicha is in his second season here, he hasn't improved any of the points he's clearly lacking at (be it touch, passing, control) and the amount of times he got himself into offsides (40 in 25 games) is a joke. I love the bloke's attitude, but he needs to improve a lot, and fast.

not the hard, some of those when many of the players can provide crosses to him are out for some reason, but maybe is that your point, chicha is not capable to generate his own chances, but TBF, how could he improve with no minutes, and yes, the game against ***is not the one to trainee

Oh I see, you're claiming that Valencia, Giggs, Young and Nani, who together have 49 assists, were just out when Chicha played. Well done to them making so many assists in max 20 games then. What a coincidence. It doesn't work like that mate, Manchester United doesn't exist to make Chicha's game better. That's something you can only do in training. If you dont, and in the games you get you make us look like we're playing with 9 outfield players, and have many of our attacks turn into offsides, then you won't be ahead of someone who's doing a hell of a lot better, even though he's actually less experienced than you. That simple. No one expects him to do everything on his own, but it's 2012, and no team can afford a player's who can only hang around the penalty box waiting for a delivery. I actually thought he'd better this season, but I'm doubting now if at the age of 23-24 you can learn basic football skills. Still I'd say he has time for a couple more seasons until Keane starts pushing him for a place.

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MexUnited:

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put welbeck on Hernandez position an he score more goals

I'm waiting to see exactly where I wrote that. For *** with you fanboys, never ends.

"Put both of them upfront and that's 9 goals in 23 games for Welbeck and 10 in 25 for Chicha. And thats without mentioning the difference in the sides they faced"

Maybe my english is not enough good to understand why you decided to not count six games and blame only chica for the poor games, not the injuries, and you can yell fanboy all that you can, I don't take it at all

Nay, your English is very good, fanboyism just has a way of blinding people. Why should I count the games he was played out of position? Again, would you expect Chicharito to score when he plays on the wings? It's simple, yes or no.

Pretty simple, do you want to De Gea stop from the midfield? And what about poor games? Why you blame chicha? I acepted multiple times that Welbeck do it better than chicha, but, c'mon, the big change comes with Scholes.

It's amazing that you don't understand how you're supporting my point instead of putting it down. You're a tad slow mate. No I don't expect De Gea to do a job in midfield, just like I don't expect Welbeck to do a job on the wings, since in both cases you have players playing out of position. Is that clearer or do you need more help with this one?

And you still ignore my ask of why you blame chicha and not the injuries for the bad months

Haha well I don't know, maybe because he's been back for months now? Maybe because at least 7 other players, including Welbeck, were out for the same length of time as him?

Not at the same matches, but ok, De Gea has bad times too, but I don't blame him for those matches, anyway, you noted that the good flows has become with Scholes? That figure me the problem has in midfield, not in the upfront

What the *** does it matter which matches? It's not as if Chicha had too many of the harder games. De Gea is a young goalie in his first season, he was bound to make mistakes, which he did, he learned from each of them and he's a beast now. Chicha is in his second season here, he hasn't improved any of the points he's clearly lacking at (be it touch, passing, control) and the amount of times he got himself into offsides (40 in 25 games) is a joke. I love the bloke's attitude, but he needs to improve a lot, and fast.

not the hard, some of those when many of the players can provide crosses to him are out for some reason, but maybe is that your point, chicha is not capable to generate his own chances, but TBF, how could he improve with no minutes, and yes, the game against ***is not the one to trainee