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  • 6 May 2012 8:25 PM

    Re: my honest opinion.

    completely agree ! mainly because united haven't won a single game where we've been behind all season! that's not normal, we haven't even been seeing the customary late raids when we've been up against it (like againt city or wigan) which is really dissapointing. hopefully that spirit returns next season ..... along with a few new signings to light up old trafford (which has been quiet in alot of matches this season )
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  • 6 May 2012 8:24 PM

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    forevergiggs:
    Sorry guys haven't seen anything in the last 2games to make me change my mind
    Come on. You aren't hanging on by a thread are you?
    Hindsight is 20 20
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  • 6 May 2012 8:09 PM

    Re: my honest opinion.

    Cyril:
    forevergiggs:
    Peter1953:
    Exactly the truth. The wasteful wasteful display against Everton is the reason we are where we are. We may still win the league but it would not be in any doubt had we got 3 points against Everton. It really frustrates me when we give 'couldn't care less' attitude displays like the one in that game. You would have imagined they would have been totally on the ball in that game to ensure they kept 5 points ahead, but for some reason we got that!! So yes, the loss at wastelands is not the result that may cost us, it is definately the draw against Everton.
    And the heartless performances against Wigan, Blackburn, Newcastle.to name but a few. At this level you can have 1 or 2 off days but not many more,
    Sorry, I can accept Wigan, Blackburn and Newcastle's loss as "Off day", but not surrendering 2 goal leads in less than 10 min as "off day". Unfortunately this is not the only time, if you still remember the Basel game. Poor defending due to lack of concentration is the main cause, and I hope nobody say Evans is the best in EPL any more.
    Yeah you're right
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  • 6 May 2012 8:05 PM

    Re: my honest opinion.

    Sorry guys haven't seen anything in the last 2games to make me change my mind
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  • 6 May 2012 2:49 PM

    Re: my honest opinion.

    Rubens was right.. SAF need to spend on CM need someone can move the midfield and control it like scholes. Carrick better when there's no pressure on him and his partner in good form..
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  • 6 May 2012 2:30 PM

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    forevergiggs:
    Peter1953:
    Exactly the truth. The wasteful wasteful display against Everton is the reason we are where we are. We may still win the league but it would not be in any doubt had we got 3 points against Everton. It really frustrates me when we give 'couldn't care less' attitude displays like the one in that game. You would have imagined they would have been totally on the ball in that game to ensure they kept 5 points ahead, but for some reason we got that!! So yes, the loss at wastelands is not the result that may cost us, it is definately the draw against Everton.
    And the heartless performances against Wigan, Blackburn, Newcastle.to name but a few. At this level you can have 1 or 2 off days but not many more,
    Sorry, I can accept Wigan, Blackburn and Newcastle's loss as "Off day", but not surrendering 2 goal leads in less than 10 min as "off day". Unfortunately this is not the only time, if you still remember the Basel game. Poor defending due to lack of concentration is the main cause, and I hope nobody say Evans is the best in EPL any more.
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  • 6 May 2012 11:22 AM

    Re: my honest opinion.

    Peter1953:
    Exactly the truth. The wasteful wasteful display against Everton is the reason we are where we are. We may still win the league but it would not be in any doubt had we got 3 points against Everton. It really frustrates me when we give 'couldn't care less' attitude displays like the one in that game. You would have imagined they would have been totally on the ball in that game to ensure they kept 5 points ahead, but for some reason we got that!! So yes, the loss at wastelands is not the result that may cost us, it is definately the draw against Everton.
    And the heartless performances against Wigan, Blackburn, Newcastle.to name but a few. At this level you can have 1 or 2 off days but not many more,
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  • 5 May 2012 2:38 PM

    Re: my honest opinion.

    Exactly the truth. The wasteful wasteful display against Everton is the reason we are where we are. We may still win the league but it would not be in any doubt had we got 3 points against Everton. It really frustrates me when we give 'couldn't care less' attitude displays like the one in that game. You would have imagined they would have been totally on the ball in that game to ensure they kept 5 points ahead, but for some reason we got that!! So yes, the loss at wastelands is not the result that may cost us, it is definately the draw against Everton.
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  • 5 May 2012 2:13 PM

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    JoeYoung:
    It is not 100% the players fault. When we had Carlos Queiroz in the staff (2004-2008) we bought Rooney, Evra, Vidic, Park, Van Der Sar, Carrick, Tevez, Nani, Anderson, both Da silva's and Hargo (oh dear) These were the major signing and these were all fantastic signings, bar hargo and maybe Anderson.

    The years he has not been here (2008-present) we have signed Tosic, Berbatov, De Laet, Diouf, Obertan, Valencia, Lindegaard, Bebe, Hernandez, Smalling, Jones, De Gea and Young.

    You can see the massive change in typ eof player we have signed since he had left. Berbatov, very good player, did great for us but not even being played now? Seems like a waste of 30 mil to me. De laet is a fail signing, so was diouf and obertan, Valencia was our best signing in the last 4 years. Lindegaard was to fill he gaps now. Bebe - what a fail. Hernandez, great sgning and great spot by the scouts but looks to me as if he is a sub. Smalling and Jones - The coaching staff don't even know what position to put Jones in.. Fantastic talent but I fera the staff could ruin him. Smalling is a natural, no compaints. Brilliant footballer. De Gea was a great signing and Young was a necessary and fit in well, but not eactly a world beater like we have seen Carlos Queiroz produce.

    Moral of the story is - bring Carlos Queiroz back.

    Forget Queiroz. Bring Kidd back. That guy, IMO, is the best assistant manager for Sir Alex. Doesn't matter if he went to Man. City. He's an excellent assistant manager who also had great tactical awareness and brought us so much success in his spell. Or even McClaren. He's another good option.

    Speaking of Queiroz, isn't this the same assistant manager who played Alan Smith, Rio Ferdinand, and John O'Shea in midfield? Is this the same manager who tried to change us to a 4-3-3 when it clearly wasn't suiting our team? You guys are talking about making Queiroz a manager when he flopped as a manager/head coach every time? The same guy who brought in Djemba-Djemba, Kleberson, etc., during his 2002-2003 spell? The same guy who Roy Keane heavily criticised in MUTV?

    I do understand that, in his time, we have seen good success from 2006 to 2008. And at this time, we have seen good transfers, too. However, why fully credit Queiroz for all of them? The only ones Queiroz really had an influence in was bringing in were Nani, Anderson, the da Silva's, and maybe Tevez. The rest seemed like good work from the scouts or obvious signings. Even then, the reason such transfers were made was clearly obvious: we didn't have good youth academy products coming through. The only ones worthy at that time were Fletcher and O'Shea. Richardson was decent, but that was it. No one else was good enough. How is it that we couldn't have made such transfers? Signings were needed then. Would you think that the likes of Liam Miller, Ebanks-Blake, Brandy, Lee Martin, Eagles, etc., could guide us to success? The current bunch we have look better than them. Currently, we have Cleverley and Welbeck already in the first team along with Evans. The likes of Will Keane, Larnell Cole, Michael Keane, and Paul Pogba have already been given chances. Petrucci has often traveled with the first team. We have better youth coming through here than before. Even then, we went and made good signings to fill in the immediate gaps. Smalling, Jones, de Gea, and Berbatov in his peak, and Lindegaard.

    The only problem right now is that we are currently in a transition period, and people are going gaga over Queiroz as if he was a saviour just because Man. City are above us. There is nothing special about Queiroz. We've been as successful, if not more, with Kidd and McClaren around. Why weren't people wanting them to come back? Just because they don't have the continental flavour?

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  • 5 May 2012 10:49 AM

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    forevergiggs:
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    I can see where you are coming from but for me personally I've got no doubts over the character and the fighting spirit this team has always shown. I think the biggest fault with this team, and even more so than the 'midfield problem' everyone's crying about, is the complacency and the lack of focus that this team shows at times.

    Everton, Wigan, Blackburn and Chelsea (away) are all examples of this team's frequent loss of concentration and that is what irritates me the most. I'm never overly upset after we lose a game that we deserve to lose, but losing or dropping points due to a lack of concentration is infuriating and no matter what anyone says if we lose the league it will be because of the draw against Everton and not the loss at the Etihad.
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  • 5 May 2012 10:46 AM

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    mark.k.:
    JoeYoung, wasn't Bebe a recommendation of Queiroz?
    That´s beside the point. Who hasn´t made a mistake when selecting a player they believe will help their club? Who would you rather have as SAFs assistant is the important question? For me Queiroz over Phelan every time without a doubt. Queiroz could possibly be a candidate to takeover when SAF steps down?
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  • 5 May 2012 10:14 AM

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    JoeYoung, wasn't Bebe a recommendation of Queiroz?
    Hindsight is 20 20
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  • 4 May 2012 7:57 PM

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    JoeYoung:
    It is not 100% the players fault. When we had Carlos Queiroz in the staff (2004-2008) we bought Rooney, Evra, Vidic, Park, Van Der Sar, Carrick, Tevez, Nani, Anderson, both Da silva's and Hargo (oh dear) These were the major signing and these were all fantastic signings, bar hargo and maybe Anderson.

    The years he has not been here (2008-present) we have signed Tosic, Berbatov, De Laet, Diouf, Obertan, Valencia, Lindegaard, Bebe, Hernandez, Smalling, Jones, De Gea and Young.

    You can see the massive change in typ eof player we have signed since he had left. Berbatov, very good player, did great for us but not even being played now? Seems like a waste of 30 mil to me. De laet is a fail signing, so was diouf and obertan, Valencia was our best signing in the last 4 years. Lindegaard was to fill he gaps now. Bebe - what a fail. Hernandez, great sgning and great spot by the scouts but looks to me as if he is a sub. Smalling and Jones - The coaching staff don't even know what position to put Jones in.. Fantastic talent but I fera the staff could ruin him. Smalling is a natural, no compaints. Brilliant footballer. De Gea was a great signing and Young was a necessary and fit in well, but not eactly a world beater like we have seen Carlos Queiroz produce.

    Moral of the story is - bring Carlos Queiroz back.

    Couldn't agree more, not for the signings, as pointed out don't think he had a lot to do with them, but for his relationship with SAF and the tactical awareness he had. You could tell he was very much respected and a valued member of the club.
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  • 4 May 2012 7:55 PM

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    Sir Kones:
    Isn't "my honest opinion" implied every time someone starts a thread?
    Not lately Sir Kones, quite a lot of people just want to wind us up, don't matter if they believe if it's the truth or not.
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  • 4 May 2012 7:50 PM

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    Sir Kones:
    JoeYoung:
    It is not 100% the players fault. When we had Carlos Queiroz in the staff (2004-2008) we bought Rooney, Evra, Vidic, Park, Van Der Sar, Carrick, Tevez, Nani, Anderson, both Da silva's and Hargo (oh dear) These were the major signing and these were all fantastic signings, bar hargo and maybe Anderson.

    The years he has not been here (2008-present) we have signed Tosic, Berbatov, De Laet, Diouf, Obertan, Valencia, Lindegaard, Bebe, Hernandez, Smalling, Jones, De Gea and Young.

    You can see the massive change in typ eof player we have signed since he had left. Berbatov, very good player, did great for us but not even being played now? Seems like a waste of 30 mil to me. De laet is a fail signing, so was diouf and obertan, Valencia was our best signing in the last 4 years. Lindegaard was to fill he gaps now. Bebe - what a fail. Hernandez, great sgning and great spot by the scouts but looks to me as if he is a sub. Smalling and Jones - The coaching staff don't even know what position to put Jones in.. Fantastic talent but I fera the staff could ruin him. Smalling is a natural, no compaints. Brilliant footballer. De Gea was a great signing and Young was a necessary and fit in well, but not eactly a world beater like we have seen Carlos Queiroz produce.

    Moral of the story is - bring Carlos Queiroz back.

    I'm not doubting you, I'm asking sincerely, how much did Queiroz have to do with deciding who we were signing? I have always assumed those decisions are made between David Gill and Sir Alex, with perhaps some input from the assistant, but I always assumed it was ultimately between Gill and Fergie. I could have it totally wrong though....
    Your probably right, I thought I would have an uneducational ramble.
    Ronny come home
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