tommythecat:

Reading some of these posts you would think SAF keeps our incomings in his own personal bank vault that he guards with a crossbow and man eating dogs.

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

Cant believe you all missed £100 million divided by 1.2 = £83 pounds per shirt. Thats not what they charge which is £50. So 50 x 1.2 = £60 million

so nike would only recieve a percentage after costs of this id go for maximum 80% and thats being generous

so £48 million

now no doubt ronaldo shirts would eat into blank shirts or shirts of other players, so the actual benefit of extra shirt sales is at least 50%. So £24 million

now as per our terms any extra revenue earnt above the flat payment is shared equally between nike and mufc so £12 milliOn and thats a generous estimate

so £80-12 = £68 million. We have £50 million in the bank

tommythecat:

steersyutd:

tommythecat:

steersyutd:

tommythecat:

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

Gross profits/ net profits...more food for thought.

Wasted information fella, an abacus could not explain it to most.

Reading some of these posts you would think SAF keeps our incomings in his own personal bank vault that he guards with a crossbow and man eating dogs.

No, he took pity on Roy Keane and has him snarling in front of the SAF vault of transfer money.

Sad how people think isn't it?

True mate, Keano would make a fine guard dog though.

tommythecat:

steersyutd:

tommythecat:

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

Gross profits/ net profits...more food for thought.

Wasted information fella, an abacus could not explain it to most.

Reading some of these posts you would think SAF keeps our incomings in his own personal bank vault that he guards with a crossbow and man eating dogs.

Sad how people think isn't it?

steersyutd:

tommythecat:

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

Gross profits/ net profits...more food for thought.

Wasted information fella, an abacus could not explain it to most.

tommythecat:

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

Gross profits/ net profits...more food for thought.

tino7:

if we wanted someone simply to sell shirts why not resign beckham that would be idea but will never happen

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

steersyutd:

iam_kramer:

steersyutd:

iam_kramer:

steersyutd:

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

The only problem with your theory is the Nike sponsorship agreement we have. As it currently stands shirt and merchandise sales for one megastar would not benefit us, maybe when we re-negotiate our sponsorship deal.

YES Steersy! i knew we had this sort of deal. jesus christ. i kept wondering why people kept going on about getting bang loads of money from shirt sales.

The current deal means all merchandise, shirts, PJ's, clocks etc and the running of the megastore are done and monies taken by Nike. I will add that we do get a kick back over am agreed target of which we still only see a percentage. So signing a player based on recouping some of that money through shirt sales if not really an option at the moment. There is speculation that if we was short of a few bob for the right player and Nike could make money from its current deal that they may help towards the cost of purchase for Player A. I want to point out that the last part is pure media speculation.

yeah, all up for renegotiation soon though init 2014 or something, i can't remember.
yeah there have been those deals before where sponsers can "put to"

2015 the agreement runs out but normally 18 months or so before hand they are negotiated. I think this next deal will be truly mind blowing as the clubs global brand is hardly beaten. I think we could be looking at 800-900 million.

yeah. knew it was something around that time. which is pretty soon. yeah i agree it will set a precedent.

iam_kramer:

steersyutd:

iam_kramer:

steersyutd:

KeaneonHaaland:

A lot of people on here seem to rubbish the possibility of signing any 'big name players' on the basis that we can't afford to spend/refuse to spend that amount of money on just one player. I just thought I'd bring up a few of the figures reported in AS (a Spanish paper) and other media regarding the Ronaldo deal which make interesting reading. Real Madrid paid £80million for Ronaldo. In the first financial year after signing him they reportedly sold over 1.2 million shirts with his name on at their own club shop alone at a conservatively estimated total price of £100million. Of course those figures alone don't tell the full picture. You would have to deduct the manufacturing cost of the shirts, marketing costs, payments to the player and to Adidas etc. from that hundred mil. However, nor do the figures include the sale of any other Ronaldo-related merchandise, shirts sales outside of Madrid or income from advertising (which will be split with the player in line with his contract). If Ronaldo hasn't already repaid his record breaking transfer fee he very shortly will have done. For me this really brings the crazy figures we talk about into perspective. £30million to me is an unimaginable, unattainable sum but to our club it's an amount that is easily recoverable provided you sign the right player. Of course, Ronaldo is exceptional but this should stil be food for thought.

The only problem with your theory is the Nike sponsorship agreement we have. As it currently stands shirt and merchandise sales for one megastar would not benefit us, maybe when we re-negotiate our sponsorship deal.

YES Steersy! i knew we had this sort of deal. jesus christ. i kept wondering why people kept going on about getting bang loads of money from shirt sales.

The current deal means all merchandise, shirts, PJ's, clocks etc and the running of the megastore are done and monies taken by Nike. I will add that we do get a kick back over am agreed target of which we still only see a percentage. So signing a player based on recouping some of that money through shirt sales if not really an option at the moment. There is speculation that if we was short of a few bob for the right player and Nike could make money from its current deal that they may help towards the cost of purchase for Player A. I want to point out that the last part is pure media speculation.

yeah, all up for renegotiation soon though init 2014 or something, i can't remember.
yeah there have been those deals before where sponsers can "put to"