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  • 16 May 2012 8:43 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    im the man:
    The-Best-7.x:
    I think you've missed the point.
    Dont think so
    what a brilliant arguees! I think that me and only me have the reason! c'mon! retaliate with another piece of wisdom like that!
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  • 16 May 2012 8:17 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    im the man:
    89cruefan2:
    OP could you put paragraphs into your first post???
    I do but for some reason when i post it it goes back like that dont know why
    This echoes your similar lack of knowledge of Man Utd and how things work. Just because you think you know the right answers doesn't mean you really do.
    Hindsight is 20 20
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  • 16 May 2012 8:16 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    "I tired" of having to grammatically correct people !
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  • 16 May 2012 8:08 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    im the man:
    The-Best-7.x:
    I think you've missed the point.
    Dont think so
    I'm the man, you seem like one of those who knows all of the problems but none of the solutions. Am I right?
    Hindsight is 20 20
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  • 16 May 2012 7:09 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    And Carrick and flecher are not world class by any mean, will u find any of them playing for Barca, Madrid or even Chelsea, cleverly, wellback, rafael , Chicha, Nani, Valencia can be great players in the world.
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  • 16 May 2012 7:05 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    Disappointed with not buying players that need to be bought, but developing youth is the best thing for a stable club, look at Barca. And no one shud question sir Alex, u will see he will overcome city, and I know city are here to stay but not for long, u cant buy titles all the time, foundation for susessful club is always the youth . Of course additions are needed only for the positions we lack quality.
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  • 16 May 2012 6:59 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    im the man:
    Because they are Trained as CM giggs and park are Wingers . Park played about three games all season and was put it to the city game were he did notting . Did you not see how stupid that was . Park up against Yaya and Barry he was walked on
    FYI Morrison wasnt trained as a CM... he is a winger who can also play in the AM/SS position too... Not the CM

    Giggs has more experience and better performances than Pogba in the CM... Giggs has been going for years and has played CM at times for years too.

    Park has actually started 24 games this season... maybe you need to look that up...I can see why Park was used as he is usually a good big game player. HOWEVER this season he has been poor (scored 4 goals and assisted 4 isnt too bad considering he has had a bad season) and really shouldnt have been trusted.

    Again it was poor tactics we went for... Had we played 4-4-2 from the off Park and Giggs wouldnt have started.

    Oh and with Pogba, WHY reward him with a game against City if he ISNT willing to show loyalty??? Would you reward a child for acting like a spoilt brat?

    I will fight until i die
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  • 16 May 2012 6:58 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    im the man:
    Michael Ballard.:
    Would it have killed you to use paragraphs op?
    If you go down the page here you will see it god
    God? lol thats a first. Why am I worthy of such a title? ;)
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  • 16 May 2012 6:58 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    Michael Ballard.:
    Would it have killed you to use paragraphs op?
    I think stretford kindly reposted it with paragraphs, so its not much of an issue and the thread is quite a good read really. Obviously there are some thing i agree on and disagree on but not as negative as the title reall comes across.
    Paul Scholes our midfield maestro!
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  • 16 May 2012 6:56 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    Michael Ballard.:
    Would it have killed you to use paragraphs op?
    If you go down the page here you will see it god
    God Said be united
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  • 16 May 2012 6:53 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    Would it have killed you to use paragraphs op?
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  • 16 May 2012 6:51 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    89cruefan2:
    Cheers Stret.

    Right im the man, I can agree in some aspects of your post.. However there are bits I disagree on.

    In terms of games, what would you rather have, we play the youth in games without of experienced players and could possibly lose OR we play experienced players in the midfield just to GURANTEE the points and continue to challenge for titles?

    The problem is finding a balance. Its obvious Fergie wanted to challenge for the PL MORE then blooding the youth.

    Answer me this though, WHY should we provide games for a player like Morrison who COULDNT BE BOTHERED getting out of bed for training? He was given a challenge to attend every training session from the start of the season until about NOV/DEC time and was told if he did so he would be rewarded with first team games... However he couldnt even be bothered to get out of bed.. why should he be rewarded with games when players like Giggs and Park worked their socks off to get in the team?

    Now onto Pogba. Again do you take the risk and throw him in at the deep end (Could have a negative effect on the player and the team) or do you give him games when we arer comfy and in control?

    Unfortunately with so many injuries even our games against smaller teams were must wins and unfortunately many of them werent certain at the times we looked at putting subs on hence Pogba didnt get as many chances.

    However when he did he played well yes, but he didnt impress and he didnt look ready to be trusted with a place in the starting lineup.

    Not to mention Pogba himself is to blame. He would have easily played 5-6 more games if it wasnt for his transfer saga, his saga occured during a time when we hit top gear and had many comfortable games, but why should he be rewarded at that time when he is acting spoilt?

    Because they are Trained as CM giggs and park are Wingers . Park played about three games all season and was put it to the city game were he did notting . Did you not see how stupid that was . Park up against Yaya and Barry he was walked on
    God Said be united
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  • 16 May 2012 6:44 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    We have to look to the future and the youh yes I agree and we will.

    However you need the right balance of youth, fairly experienced and well experienced players to cover all aspects of the season. That set of players we will have next season, this season I don't think has gone as planned due to injuries and such.

    Not sure who is going on about Beckham, Butts etc but there are people who firmly believe that we have some very talented in the youth system that can become key players for us in the future the likes of Keane, Fryers, Tunnicliffe, Blackett, Petrucci etc. We have a bright future ahead thats for sure.

    I agree with Giggs and Scholes, the summer transfer window didn't work out for us in the sense that we brought no one in to replace Scholes, SAF put a lot of faith into the younger players Cleverley, Anderson, Pogba. Then we had Fletcher who was struggle with his illness and one or two injuries to others.

    Cleverley started brightly but picked up an injury against Bolton, since we lost him we did lose something and so tried to rush him back in with him having a reoccurance of his injury. He has been back for a while now gaining fitness in the reserves and such, towards the end of the season it isn't the time to be experimenting with our squad and SAF imo has done the right thing with him, he will be back next season and hopefully stay clear of injuries.

    As to Pogba and Morrison, both got called up to train with the first team which is a big step, Morrison clearly had off the field problems we gave him a chance but continuous problems lead to him leaving and he hasn't done much since, Pogba had chances in the CC against the likes of Leeds, Crystal Palace but didn't impress imo, we don't see him in training either so I trust SAF's judgement in to when to bring him through, around the winter time the Blackburn game stands out to some but this was the time when rumours came about his contract which I think could have affected his chances. If he isn't committed then why should he play?

    Other youths got a few chances as well Keanes and Cole, more out on loan like Brady, Tunnicliffe, Norwood gaining vital experience. As to Giggs in cm well to be fair he did very well in that role last season with he and Carrick reaching the CL final so couldn't have been that bad, love Giggs myself but have to admit that he has lost his legs and towards the end of the season has featured less.

    SAF has said he won't go out and buy random players, he will invest in youth like he has always done and thats the way forward if we want to dominant, you need a strong team with chemistry who can play together for 5-8 years at top level. Of course SAF is the master at rebuilding a new team and we can see that happening now.

    Finally as I say the season didn't go as plan and we didn't have too many large wins when we could of brought youngsters on, next season we will see Scholes and Giggs take a lesser role with Cleverley,Welbeck,Smalling etc coming to the front with of course some more additions to the team.

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  • 16 May 2012 6:41 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    89cruefan2:
    im the man:
    89cruefan2:
    OP could you put paragraphs into your first post???
    I do but for some reason when i post it it goes back like that dont know why
    To do paragraphs do this on the part you want to seperate <> <>

    And in each of the <> put the letter p.

    That will then have the post seperate like this one.

    Thanks man that really helped. I'm still struggle with when i just want to start a new line not paragraph. "Enter" doesn't work properly. 2nd question: Have you any idea why it take them moderators like up to 5 hours to release my posts? It really pisses me off and I don't know the reason cause everyone elses comments appear immediately? Strange. Other question how can i send personal messages? I didn't found out how to do it and it would be nice sometimes(just like now lol)
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  • 16 May 2012 6:35 PM

    Re: I tired of Hearing Excuses from SAF and some of you fans

    Cheers Stret.

    Right im the man, I can agree in some aspects of your post.. However there are bits I disagree on.

    In terms of games, what would you rather have, we play the youth in games without of experienced players and could possibly lose OR we play experienced players in the midfield just to GURANTEE the points and continue to challenge for titles?

    The problem is finding a balance. Its obvious Fergie wanted to challenge for the PL MORE then blooding the youth.

    Answer me this though, WHY should we provide games for a player like Morrison who COULDNT BE BOTHERED getting out of bed for training? He was given a challenge to attend every training session from the start of the season until about NOV/DEC time and was told if he did so he would be rewarded with first team games... However he couldnt even be bothered to get out of bed.. why should he be rewarded with games when players like Giggs and Park worked their socks off to get in the team?

    Now onto Pogba. Again do you take the risk and throw him in at the deep end (Could have a negative effect on the player and the team) or do you give him games when we arer comfy and in control?

    Unfortunately with so many injuries even our games against smaller teams were must wins and unfortunately many of them werent certain at the times we looked at putting subs on hence Pogba didnt get as many chances.

    However when he did he played well yes, but he didnt impress and he didnt look ready to be trusted with a place in the starting lineup.

    Not to mention Pogba himself is to blame. He would have easily played 5-6 more games if it wasnt for his transfer saga, his saga occured during a time when we hit top gear and had many comfortable games, but why should he be rewarded at that time when he is acting spoilt?

    I will fight until i die
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