I believe that making a line up with both Hazard and Kagawa is possible, since Hazard has been playing mainly as a left attacker for Lille, whereas Kagawa's role in Dortmund was cam. It would only mean that Rooney has to play upfront as a "lone striker", or as a right-attacker in a fluid front-three of Welbeck, Hazard and Rooney.

I however remain convinced that getting both would undoubtedly provoke a surprise exit from one of our major attacker, like Nani. I really can't see how we can keep all of Nani, Valencia, Young, Kagawa, Hazard, Welbeck, and Rooney in the same team.

I am really curious to see what SAF has in mind. My bet at the minute is that we will get both of them, whereas Nani will be leaving to Juventus. But my ideal summer would be to only get Kagawa, as well as someone like Strootman to boost our cm

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I am defo looking forward to seeing what happens this summer

Manchester1989Utd:

manoob:

Manchester1989Utd:

Not a chance we will rely on Carrick as a lone holding midfielder, he'd get battered, because he's not that efficient defensively, he can tackle by all means but he's not a DM, he needs a deeper central player sat along side him to be at his most effective. I think we will roll with a 4-2-3-1 .... Rooney will by no means be a lone striker though, it will just look that way on paper, because Kagawa plays almost as a support striker for Dortmund and Hazard loves to join in the attack as well rather than as a winger, with Valencia providing a permenant wide option with those delightful crosses. It will chop and change over the season but for me a 4-2-3-1 should be the main formation next season

thats my formation too! used fm2012 and it passed all the tests here..:)

Interesting how many of you seem to favour Hazard centrally and Kagawa as a wider player. Kagawa would be better centrally IMO, Hazard's a bit quicker across the ground than Kagawa so would be more useful having him out wide, where as Kagawa has a better range of passing which is always key to a good attacking midfielder. By all means he'll chop and change with Rooney and Kagawa over the course of the game but I see him as the most 'winger' like of the two

well i think they can change positions during games to make it harder to defend against! thats what i would do any way so when kagawa comes in the middle hazard fill the wing....

manoob:

Manchester1989Utd:

Not a chance we will rely on Carrick as a lone holding midfielder, he'd get battered, because he's not that efficient defensively, he can tackle by all means but he's not a DM, he needs a deeper central player sat along side him to be at his most effective. I think we will roll with a 4-2-3-1 .... Rooney will by no means be a lone striker though, it will just look that way on paper, because Kagawa plays almost as a support striker for Dortmund and Hazard loves to join in the attack as well rather than as a winger, with Valencia providing a permenant wide option with those delightful crosses. It will chop and change over the season but for me a 4-2-3-1 should be the main formation next season

thats my formation too! used fm2012 and it passed all the tests here..:)

Interesting how many of you seem to favour Hazard centrally and Kagawa as a wider player. Kagawa would be better centrally IMO, Hazard's a bit quicker across the ground than Kagawa so would be more useful having him out wide, where as Kagawa has a better range of passing which is always key to a good attacking midfielder. By all means he'll chop and change with Rooney and Kagawa over the course of the game but I see him as the most 'winger' like of the two

DE GEA SMALLING VIDIC FERDINAND EVRA CARRICK VALENCIA NANI HAZARD KAGAWA ROONEY This is the most attacking formation which would accommodate both Kagawa and Hazard however it doesnt matter if we cant fit them both in the line-up as Fergie will rotate for the champions league, fa cup, premier league and even carling cup. If we were just to sign those two players I would be happy because having vidic back would be like a new signing itself and Evans in the last part of the season showed why Fergie has faith in him and Jones and Smalling can only get better. Yes the fullback position to some is a weak link however in right back we have rafael who has enormous amount of talent however still is prone to mistakes and Jones and Smalling for the time being in my eyes are more reliable. Also Evra is getting older and probably only has a few more years left in him but his experience just like Ferdinand is vital for the younger players and in Fryers im hoping we have a future left back for a decade or so.

Manchester1989Utd:

Not a chance we will rely on Carrick as a lone holding midfielder, he'd get battered, because he's not that efficient defensively, he can tackle by all means but he's not a DM, he needs a deeper central player sat along side him to be at his most effective. I think we will roll with a 4-2-3-1 .... Rooney will by no means be a lone striker though, it will just look that way on paper, because Kagawa plays almost as a support striker for Dortmund and Hazard loves to join in the attack as well rather than as a winger, with Valencia providing a permenant wide option with those delightful crosses. It will chop and change over the season but for me a 4-2-3-1 should be the main formation next season

thats my formation too! used fm2012 and it passed all the tests here..:)

Not a chance we will rely on Carrick as a lone holding midfielder, he'd get battered, because he's not that efficient defensively, he can tackle by all means but he's not a DM, he needs a deeper central player sat along side him to be at his most effective. I think we will roll with a 4-2-3-1 .... Rooney will by no means be a lone striker though, it will just look that way on paper, because Kagawa plays almost as a support striker for Dortmund and Hazard loves to join in the attack as well rather than as a winger, with Valencia providing a permenant wide option with those delightful crosses. It will chop and change over the season but for me a 4-2-3-1 should be the main formation next season

shlongconnery:

Football coach mate ;) know a little bit about football haha, that formation scares me and it would scare a lot of teams I feel...

infact most spanish teams use that formation only......but for that to happen you need far more technically superior players than the average......with nani, kagawa hazard and rooney.....it might just work but if you swap any of them with players like young , valencia, chicha or welbeck....we'l just end up leaving our back line exposed a *** load...cuz franklyy young doesnt prefer the right , valencia doesnt like the left...hernandez cant play for *** outside the box....the only player i see even remotely coming close that fluid style in all of these 4 is welbeck.....rest are too rigis to play in that formation

shlongconnery:

Football coach mate ;) know a little bit about football haha, that formation scares me and it would scare a lot of teams I feel...

infact most spanish teams use that formation only......but for that to happen you need far more technically superior players than the average......with nani, kagawa hazard and rooney.....it might just work but if you swap any of them with players like young , valencia, chicha or welbeck....we'l just end up leaving our back line exposed a *** load...cuz franklyy young doesnt prefer the right , valencia doesnt like the left...hernandez cant play for *** outside the box....the only player i see even remotely coming close that fluid style in all of these 4 is welbeck.....

Picked this as i dont really think it would matter where i set up the front 4 as they would all just interchange and the sheer pace of us attacking we could easily end up with young on the right Hazard on the left and Kagawa in front of Rooney. but saying that if we didn't sign either of these players it could work with Valencia, Nani, Young and Rooney Although some may say that Valencia Has to play on the right.

Plenty of games to go around between midweek League Cup and European games throughout the season. Would maybe prefer a more defensive minded midfield to hold the rear but not essential. Utd have always counter attacked with devastating pace, this formation would allow us to continue that.

well if we sell raphael brothers,berba,anderson, and fletcher seems injured, rio wont play many games because of his back. vidic might have more injuries given his age. cleverly mught be the same. sell park. than this would be my team . i have run trhough some simulations against barca and real and chelsea ,didnt bother with city :) and we won all our matches :)

volcom:

kinda like a barca formation

It's nothing like the Barca formation. They're playing with one deep lying playmaker (which Kagawa isn't and never will be). This formation has two AMs and two wingers, leaving just one midfielder to hold the entire midfield. No chance we'd ever play like this.

volcom:

Zootang:

This is how it could and most probably work

kinda like a barca formation

With Pep taking a year off and Dave whelan saying Sir Alex has only a year left. Maybe?

shlongconnery:

volcom:

shlongconnery:

Fluid front 4, a no striker formation, this would definitely work, Rooney would not be a lone striker as all 4 players would swap and change...

this sacrifices valencia young welbeck and chico tho....

Volcom, there are over 60 games in a season mate, you asked me for a formation that worked, that works and unfortunately in football, you have to play with the team infront and who are in form, competition is a healthy thing and if one player is playing better then that player is picked, simple as that, if you have two players for every position, then form is what is important, not being dealt a shed load of injuries or not having enough cover full stop and having to pick that, we have been caught short far too many times and these two additions are world class or will be in a year or two time, we need to stop worrying about having to drop certain people, we need to move forward and show we can still play exciting attacking football and bring in the big players.

I think that this suggestion is very realistic and gives us great depth up front, if anything too much. Someone would need to go (Nani?). The only issue is the lack of real depth in midfield, particularly behind Carrick. Jones can fill his spot when needed, but that eats into our depth at the back. To give some real security in depth someone like Nani needs to go and be replaced by a midfielder with size, tackling, passing and an ability to dictate play somewhat. If we don't I think we risk sacrificing the balance of the squad.

volcom:

Zootang:

This is how it could and most probably work

kinda like a barca formation

God no.