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Manchester United Community » ManUtd.com » Transfer Speculation » KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..
  • 6 Jun 2012 5:07 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    jonta:
    colesey:
    seems to me like a player in the Modric/Silva mould....and we all know how unsucessfull they have both been in the prem
    Exuse me but i think you have got it wrong in saying that modric and silva have both been unsucessful ok modrc hasnt won enything at spurs but he is a fabulous player and so is silva who as picked up a prem leage winners medal and as for kagawa he as won the german league and as been named as germanys player of the season so you carnt argue against that
    I assume he was being sarcastic lol. This thread is ridiculous tone honest. I've watched Kagawa play for the two seasons he's been in the BL, and he is a good player. I think people are overhyping when they say he's as good as Ozil, because he isn't just yet. But if you watch him play he certainly can be. He's really good on the ball, and his shots to goal ratio proves his composure. Moreover he isn't a Scholes who can spot a pass as if he had an infrared radar in his head, but he's our only CM who can run at defenders - who else in our CM does? And he is a good passer nonetheless. Oh, and him being bad because he is Japanese is the most ridiculous thing I've read on here.
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  • 6 Jun 2012 4:18 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    Ok, let me get this straight here. You're saying the player who was the key member of the team that thrashed Bayern Munich to the title and stuffed them 5-2 in the Cup, Bayern Munich being the team who got the Champion's League Final after outplaying Real Madrid over 2 legs and extra time, Real Madrid being the team who stopped "the greatest side in history" to the league title in Spain, you are saying this man will only be as good as Park? LOL, ***.
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  • 6 Jun 2012 3:29 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    Just want to remind all the fans here, Man Utd no need to buy players just to sell shirts! This club alone is BIG enough to sell millions of shirt around the world!! We are 1/10 of the world population!!! Which sport clubs have the same fan base!!!!
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  • 6 Jun 2012 2:58 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    well said. This thread could not have been started by a true united fan. Kagawa is going to run is tale off for united he has great touches ability and passing. He is a perfect united player. Now well make him famous.
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  • 6 Jun 2012 2:44 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    kerim teoman:
    United4191:
    kerim teoman:
    Call me anything you like. But I am not a hater. I have always been objective about transfers. Dont expect Kagawa to be next Scholes. He can play in similar level as Park, Anderson (when not injured). Telling you again: He is not a kind of player who drives us forward. He can maintain status quo. I am not gonna answer your full of hatred comments. But keep this topic in mind, I will make my first comment 6 months from now. And you all will appreciate my vision...
    Instead of just being all pessimistic and trying to act like you know it all why don't you give some reasons as to why you think he will not be able to drive us forward because I for one would love to hear them. Going by your other posts they're bound to be ridiculous reasons but please share them with me.
    Good remark. here is my following reasons: 1- he is Japanese. maybe the first japanese in our team. I simply dont think his culture suits to ours. He will be faced with settlement problems. We even saw it with De Gea last year. For Asian I would expect more. AT MOST he can contribute as much as PArk. if you are down with it. then it's fine. 2- When we look at his stats, clearly he is not a monster. For sure he will contribute but i just dont see that quality to be a leading star in our team. 3- Kagawa was our 2nd plan. We headed for Hazard but didn't happen to be true. 4- To be honest we are lacking in Central Midfield position so he should not have been our top priority. Rooney can also play in that position. When u look at the bigger picture we may see Kawaga sitting on the bench most of the time. 5- From my point of view we should sign Top Class Players. Because what this team needs now is players possessed with TOP Quality. Young,Valencia, Nani, Park, Carrick...etc these are all good players but not like world class type. If we are aiming for CL then you know our competitors Real Barca...etc. Then ask this question to yourself: Can Kagawa be considered as star in these teams? or he just sits in the beach and substituated later? I'd rather save 12M and splash to players with the likes of Mesut Ozil, Iniesta....etc
    It seems like you are new to football or you have been living under the rock for this past years. Utd sign Kagawa because of his talent and he will get into our starting XI instantly so I seriously don't get it why you say he'll sit on the bench. We have been lacking creativity, I mean a creative player who is also have lots of flair/ flamboyant that can score / assists so Kagawa fits that really well.. With him finally we can play 4-2-3-1 like top teams have been using with Kagawa behind Rooney and Rooney don't need to drop deep often but instead he can focus on what is his best, that is scoring goals!!
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  • 6 Jun 2012 1:09 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    I havent seen him play so am hoping he turns out to be good - must admit my first thought was 'has he been bought to sell shirts in the far east', but it is unlikely United would have bought him without him having some talent so will have to see what materialises - I guess sometimes we have to accept that not all the best players are household names to start off with. - Hernandez etc being a case in point - so here's hoping he turns out to be someone special in the Silva mould.
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  • 6 Jun 2012 1:01 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    kerim teoman:
    therealry:
    kerim teoman:
    So was De Gea. he was the best GK. but now if you ask, anyone would prefer Neuer instead.
    I doubt you will find many United fans wishing we had Neuer instead of De Gea.
    kerim teoman:
    Now tell me before slaughter
    Why are you going to slaughter someone? YOu sound very disturbed.
    come on guys we paid only 12M. no one is really expecting Ronaldo right? Like I said hundreds times before, he is decent player and will streghten our squad. what I am saying is we need BIG names. when our competitors see they should be terrified. back in times we had Cantona, then Ronaldo, Rooney, (tevez somehow). tell me one player in our squad that teams like Real, Barca want to see in their team? only two names can play in the first 11, Vidic and Rooney. or tell me our goal /expectations from this season??? If it's premier league only and we dont need to discuss. Kagawa would be enough to fight for the top
    Valencia, Nani, Real also wanted Hernandez,. all wanted by real But what a stupid way too look at it. try and think which players wid make it in madrid! why? in the past few years we have been more successful then madrid except this on season. get over madrid n barce
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  • 6 Jun 2012 12:52 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    colesey:
    seems to me like a player in the Modric/Silva mould....and we all know how unsucessfull they have both been in the prem
    Exuse me but i think you have got it wrong in saying that modric and silva have both been unsucessful ok modrc hasnt won enything at spurs but he is a fabulous player and so is silva who as picked up a prem leage winners medal and as for kagawa he as won the german league and as been named as germanys player of the season so you carnt argue against that
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  • 6 Jun 2012 12:48 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    DaNNe:
    A hater is precisely what you are. Kagawa haven't even made a single appearance in our shirt yet, how do you know he won't drive us forward, how can you state he is not a top talent? What do you even know about football?
    It is simple. Some who slate Kagawa have these in their minds. 1. Asian players cannot be good no matter what. 2. Bundesliga is an inferior Mickey Mouse league, so one of the best players like Kagawa will fail in PL. Klopp chose Kagawa in AM position, even though Gotze wanted to play in the middle. Stats of Kagawa is better than (or equal to) Ribery and Robben. Dortmund (Kagawa as a key player) shredded Bayern Munich (CL finalist) for 5 times in a row........BUT all these do not matter with people who want to hate Kagawa.
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  • 6 Jun 2012 12:36 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    What on earth does "KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt.." Mean anyway? The OP is a douche
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  • 6 Jun 2012 12:26 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    A hater is precisely what you are. Kagawa haven't even made a single appearance in our shirt yet, how do you know he won't drive us forward, how can you state he is not a top talent? What do you even know about football?
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  • 5 Jun 2012 8:46 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    ManUtdisTheBest:
    forevergiggs:
    tommythecat:
    kerim teoman:
    IamConnor17:
    kerim teoman:
    tommythecat:
    kerim teoman:
    Call me anything you like. But I am not a hater. I have always been objective about transfers. Dont expect Kagawa to be next Scholes. He can play in similar level as Park, Anderson (when not injured). Telling you again: He is not a kind of player who drives us forward. He can maintain status quo. I am not gonna answer your full of hatred comments. But keep this topic in mind, I will make my first comment 6 months from now. And you all will appreciate my vision...
    No one said he was the next Scholes.
    Anyways he is not the guy who can lead this club to glory. Playing in Dortmund is not a sign of any proof for our shirt. for sure he is NOT TOP TALENT like people sayin in this form.
    Playing for Dortmund a team which has won the german league twice in a row isnt good enough for us, hmmm... Ronaldo played for Benfica, Steve Bruce played for Norwich and Gillingham before joining us, Hernandez played for for Chivas... some great players to play for not such great teams but still have done great things for us... And I love how people such as yourself think simply because your opinion differs from others and has more negativity to it that your point must be right, Kagawa is an incredibly talented players and 6 months down the line you will have nothing to post about because Kagawa is exactly what our team needs, Kagawa last season scored 17 and assisted something like 10-13 im not too sure on that stat... Anyways you compare that too any top CAM's in any top league and he is up there with them and better, Mesut Ozil scored 6 and created 24, There stats together make very similar stats in terms of contributions, Iniesta scored 8 and assisted like 12, David Silva scored 7 and assisted 17... I could go one but proving my point has got kinda too easy.
    Oh Oh Oh ONE BIG MISTAKE you regular people do all the time!!! Mesut Ozil may create 24 asists BUT when we look at the asists of asists his contribution is quite high to the team. Do you think Mourinho is just stupid enough to give him credit in every Madrid match? And like I said in my previous comment: Do you think Kawaga still play regularly in Madrid or Barcelona? Do benchmark in your head? These are our rivals in CL right? and we "want" CL right?
    No offence mate but you appear to be a clueless w@nker.
    I'm sure he won't take offence at that lol. Make you right though. He's digging himself a big hole. Opinions are all well and good but FFS.
    Its so funny, Man Utd fans doubt about Kagawa ability. I have read event City fans recognize Kagawa as a quality player. For Highlight Kagawa is the best player in bundesliga two years in row.
    People like this can't be United fans because they know f@ck all about football. Kagawa will be one of the players we have so sorely missed the last few seasons. If we can keep Pogba or sign Martinez/Strootman then we have every chance of competing in every competition, and be back to playing our famous fast flowing football.
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  • 5 Jun 2012 8:38 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    forevergiggs:
    tommythecat:
    kerim teoman:
    IamConnor17:
    kerim teoman:
    tommythecat:
    kerim teoman:
    Call me anything you like. But I am not a hater. I have always been objective about transfers. Dont expect Kagawa to be next Scholes. He can play in similar level as Park, Anderson (when not injured). Telling you again: He is not a kind of player who drives us forward. He can maintain status quo. I am not gonna answer your full of hatred comments. But keep this topic in mind, I will make my first comment 6 months from now. And you all will appreciate my vision...
    No one said he was the next Scholes.
    Anyways he is not the guy who can lead this club to glory. Playing in Dortmund is not a sign of any proof for our shirt. for sure he is NOT TOP TALENT like people sayin in this form.
    Playing for Dortmund a team which has won the german league twice in a row isnt good enough for us, hmmm... Ronaldo played for Benfica, Steve Bruce played for Norwich and Gillingham before joining us, Hernandez played for for Chivas... some great players to play for not such great teams but still have done great things for us... And I love how people such as yourself think simply because your opinion differs from others and has more negativity to it that your point must be right, Kagawa is an incredibly talented players and 6 months down the line you will have nothing to post about because Kagawa is exactly what our team needs, Kagawa last season scored 17 and assisted something like 10-13 im not too sure on that stat... Anyways you compare that too any top CAM's in any top league and he is up there with them and better, Mesut Ozil scored 6 and created 24, There stats together make very similar stats in terms of contributions, Iniesta scored 8 and assisted like 12, David Silva scored 7 and assisted 17... I could go one but proving my point has got kinda too easy.
    Oh Oh Oh ONE BIG MISTAKE you regular people do all the time!!! Mesut Ozil may create 24 asists BUT when we look at the asists of asists his contribution is quite high to the team. Do you think Mourinho is just stupid enough to give him credit in every Madrid match? And like I said in my previous comment: Do you think Kawaga still play regularly in Madrid or Barcelona? Do benchmark in your head? These are our rivals in CL right? and we "want" CL right?
    No offence mate but you appear to be a clueless w@nker.
    I'm sure he won't take offence at that lol. Make you right though. He's digging himself a big hole. Opinions are all well and good but FFS.
    Its so funny, Man Utd fans doubt about Kagawa ability. I have read event City fans recognize Kagawa as a quality player. For Highlight Kagawa is the best player in bundesliga two years in row.
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  • 5 Jun 2012 8:29 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    tommythecat:
    kerim teoman:
    IamConnor17:
    kerim teoman:
    tommythecat:
    kerim teoman:
    Call me anything you like. But I am not a hater. I have always been objective about transfers. Dont expect Kagawa to be next Scholes. He can play in similar level as Park, Anderson (when not injured). Telling you again: He is not a kind of player who drives us forward. He can maintain status quo. I am not gonna answer your full of hatred comments. But keep this topic in mind, I will make my first comment 6 months from now. And you all will appreciate my vision...
    No one said he was the next Scholes.
    Anyways he is not the guy who can lead this club to glory. Playing in Dortmund is not a sign of any proof for our shirt. for sure he is NOT TOP TALENT like people sayin in this form.
    Playing for Dortmund a team which has won the german league twice in a row isnt good enough for us, hmmm... Ronaldo played for Benfica, Steve Bruce played for Norwich and Gillingham before joining us, Hernandez played for for Chivas... some great players to play for not such great teams but still have done great things for us... And I love how people such as yourself think simply because your opinion differs from others and has more negativity to it that your point must be right, Kagawa is an incredibly talented players and 6 months down the line you will have nothing to post about because Kagawa is exactly what our team needs, Kagawa last season scored 17 and assisted something like 10-13 im not too sure on that stat... Anyways you compare that too any top CAM's in any top league and he is up there with them and better, Mesut Ozil scored 6 and created 24, There stats together make very similar stats in terms of contributions, Iniesta scored 8 and assisted like 12, David Silva scored 7 and assisted 17... I could go one but proving my point has got kinda too easy.
    Oh Oh Oh ONE BIG MISTAKE you regular people do all the time!!! Mesut Ozil may create 24 asists BUT when we look at the asists of asists his contribution is quite high to the team. Do you think Mourinho is just stupid enough to give him credit in every Madrid match? And like I said in my previous comment: Do you think Kawaga still play regularly in Madrid or Barcelona? Do benchmark in your head? These are our rivals in CL right? and we "want" CL right?
    No offence mate but you appear to be a clueless w@nker.
    I'm sure he won't take offence at that lol. Make you right though. He's digging himself a big hole. Opinions are all well and good but FFS.
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  • 5 Jun 2012 7:52 PM

    Re: KAGAWA is not heavy enough to lift up our shirt..

    kerim teoman:
    therealry:
    kerim teoman:
    So was De Gea. he was the best GK. but now if you ask, anyone would prefer Neuer instead.
    I doubt you will find many United fans wishing we had Neuer instead of De Gea.
    kerim teoman:
    Now tell me before slaughter
    Why are you going to slaughter someone? YOu sound very disturbed.
    come on guys we paid only 12M. no one is really expecting Ronaldo right? Like I said hundreds times before, he is decent player and will streghten our squad. what I am saying is we need BIG names. when our competitors see they should be terrified. back in times we had Cantona, then Ronaldo, Rooney, (tevez somehow). tell me one player in our squad that teams like Real, Barca want to see in their team? only two names can play in the first 11, Vidic and Rooney. or tell me our goal /expectations from this season??? If it's premier league only and we dont need to discuss. Kagawa would be enough to fight for the top
    Funny. The irony is Ronaldo was signed for 12mil.
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