shlongconnery:

Guys, seriously, everyone complains we aren't bringing in good players and the minute we do, just because he is from Japan, the only reason we're bringing him in is because of shirt sales, this may not sound it but it is a very *** comment, you're instantly disgregarding what Kagawa has achieved in a very hard and competitive league, the kid has a lot of talent and will work wonders for our team and to set the record straight, we don't see even half of the shirt sales in Asia, we take a cut from Nike, it's not like we get 100% profit and that's the reason we signed Kagawa, get your facts straight and stop being so r a c i s t, I for one am delighted if we close out this deal!

We're better than this guys, we don't want to be like the bin dippers or the berties, those two are incredibly stupid and r a c i s t and come out with things like that, let's just appreciate, we've managed to make a massive coup for a small outlay, he's a 30/35 million pound player if he had a full contract. This place angers me sometimes!

*twinkletoes*:

People who say we only signed him to sell shirts have obviously never seen him play. These people are idiots, but I don't think you can call them r/acist. They're juust kids who are butt-hurt they wont have Hazard in their FIFA team next year.

Gavin2011:

Thats not true about shirt sales. Where did you hear that or what makes you think that? Im pretty sure thats why clubs change their kits yearly to make money. A percentage would be payed to United....

"RUTHLESS-REDS":

shlongconnery:

Guys, seriously, everyone complains we aren't bringing in good players and the minute we do, just because he is from Japan, the only reason we're bringing him in is because of shirt sales, this may not sound it but it is a very *** comment, you're instantly disgregarding what Kagawa has achieved in a very hard and competitive league, the kid has a lot of talent and will work wonders for our team and to set the record straight, we don't see even half of the shirt sales in Asia, we take a cut from Nike, it's not like we get 100% profit and that's the reason we signed Kagawa, get your facts straight and stop being so r a c i s t, I for one am delighted if we close out this deal!

We're better than this guys, we don't want to be like the bin dippers or the berties, those two are incredibly stupid and r a c i s t and come out with things like that, let's just appreciate, we've managed to make a massive coup for a small outlay, he's a 30/35 million pound player if he had a full contract. This place angers me sometimes!

these posters no nout about players and mufc,so i wouldn't let it get to me so much.the player your on about i know nout about but still have the decency to respect the player and the club for pullin off a deal which looks a very good deal.i can't give any input into the player as i don't know enough or anything about him,but i'm willin to give the player the same respect as i'd give any new signin and will only then judge him after we get a decent chance to see what the player is like,this is something i'd advise ppl on this forum to do.after all it looks like he'll be part of are club very soon and by dissin him your only dissin a utd player,which in fact says a lot about posters that are willin to dis utd players.imo they shouldn't even be on the site as its clear there not even true supporters.thats how i see them anyways...... p.s city,liverpool love these kind of fans....

shlongconnery:

Guys, seriously, everyone complains we aren't bringing in good players and the minute we do, just because he is from Japan, the only reason we're bringing him in is because of shirt sales, this may not sound it but it is a very *** comment, you're instantly disgregarding what Kagawa has achieved in a very hard and competitive league, the kid has a lot of talent and will work wonders for our team and to set the record straight, we don't see even half of the shirt sales in Asia, we take a cut from Nike, it's not like we get 100% profit and that's the reason we signed Kagawa, get your facts straight and stop being so r a c i s t, I for one am delighted if we close out this deal!

We're better than this guys, we don't want to be like the bin dippers or the berties, those two are incredibly stupid and r a c i s t and come out with things like that, let's just appreciate, we've managed to make a massive coup for a small outlay, he's a 30/35 million pound player if he had a full contract. This place angers me sometimes!

shlongconnery:

Gavin2011:

pele 10:

shlongconnery:

That's my point, just because a player is from somewhere outside of Europe or South America, he's not considered a big name, I think Landon Donavon is a big player but because he's American, no one will think he's good enough, what I'm saying is, Asian, Pakistani, Indian, Belgian, Russian WHATEVER, if you're good enough, you're good enough end of, he's not being bought in just for shirt sales

I agree with you I can´t see us investing in a player simply to raise the sale of shirts. Especially when the revenue from the shirt sales go to the shirt sponsor AON or the shirt manufacturer Nike and not the club. The other thing is if SAF didn´t think a player would improve the squad I doubt he would sign him or suggest Gill or the Glazers sign the player.

First and foremost what sells shirts or brings revenue to the club is a players performance along with his and the clubs success not his country of origin.

Thats not true about shirt sales. Where did you hear that or what makes you think that? Im pretty sure thats club change their kits yearly to make money. A percentage would be payed to United....

Nike get the lion share of the profits and United and AON get a percentage, the percentage in England on shirt sales certainly isn't that of Spain, we wouldn't spend £17 Million on someone for more shirt sales, I'd be surprised if we even made £10 Million on shirt sales from just Kagawa, Nike and AON will make a lot! That's why they pay us so much money for Contracts, Nike Contract in 2013 is up for a bumper deal of £600 Million and AON is up for renewal for around £120 Million, advertising and shirt sales is how Nike and AON make their money back, we don't get a massive percentage of what the true turnover of shirt sales are.

i actually think its other supporters taking the mick! I know there are a few here but its very very few. Great player with the 'Silva' style of play we have been missing.

On the shirt side of things, teams below us make most of their money through shirt sales, i know we enter the big tournaments but the shirt sales would bring in more than i reckon people believe. An argument often made about players moving...shirt sales alone would pay for that 'player'. AON make more through united advertisements/advertising as well as DHL.(new ad is G.a.y) they get their name out there...

shlongconnery:

Nike get the lion share of the profits and United and AON get a percentage, the percentage in England on shirt sales certainly isn't that of Spain, we wouldn't spend £17 Million on someone for more shirt sales, I'd be surprised if we even made £10 Million on shirt sales from just Kagawa, Nike and AON will make a lot! That's why they pay us so much money for Contracts, Nike Contract in 2013 is up for a bumper deal of £600 Million and AON is up for renewal for around £120 Million, advertising and shirt sales is how Nike and AON make their money back, we don't get a massive percentage of what the true turnover of shirt sales are.

Gavin2011:

pele 10:

shlongconnery:

That's my point, just because a player is from somewhere outside of Europe or South America, he's not considered a big name, I think Landon Donavon is a big player but because he's American, no one will think he's good enough, what I'm saying is, Asian, Pakistani, Indian, Belgian, Russian WHATEVER, if you're good enough, you're good enough end of, he's not being bought in just for shirt sales

I agree with you I can´t see us investing in a player simply to raise the sale of shirts. Especially when the revenue from the shirt sales go to the shirt sponsor AON or the shirt manufacturer Nike and not the club. The other thing is if SAF didn´t think a player would improve the squad I doubt he would sign him or suggest Gill or the Glazers sign the player.

First and foremost what sells shirts or brings revenue to the club is a players performance along with his and the clubs success not his country of origin.

Thats not true about shirt sales. Where did you hear that or what makes you think that? Im pretty sure thats club change their kits yearly to make money. A percentage would be payed to United....

pele 10:

shlongconnery:

That's my point, just because a player is from somewhere outside of Europe or South America, he's not considered a big name, I think Landon Donavon is a big player but because he's American, no one will think he's good enough, what I'm saying is, Asian, Pakistani, Indian, Belgian, Russian WHATEVER, if you're good enough, you're good enough end of, he's not being bought in just for shirt sales

I agree with you I can´t see us investing in a player simply to raise the sale of shirts. Especially when the revenue from the shirt sales go to the shirt sponsor AON or the shirt manufacturer Nike and not the club. The other thing is if SAF didn´t think a player would improve the squad I doubt he would sign him or suggest Gill or the Glazers sign the player.

First and foremost what sells shirts or brings revenue to the club is a players performance along with his and the clubs success not his country of origin.

shlongconnery:

That's my point, just because a player is from somewhere outside of Europe or South America, he's not considered a big name, I think Landon Donavon is a big player but because he's American, no one will think he's good enough, what I'm saying is, Asian, Pakistani, Indian, Belgian, Russian WHATEVER, if you're good enough, you're good enough end of, he's not being bought in just for shirt sales

First and foremost what sells shirts or brings revenue to the club is a players performance along with his and the clubs success not his country of origin.

Stretfordender 83:

shlongconnery:

I couldn't care less if we signed a player from Pakistan,

I don't see why you should. There is nothing wrong with Pakistan or Pakistani people.