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  • 13 Jun 2012 7:59 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    I think we might see Modric come over which I'd be happy with....the figures I'd read were £22m rising to £30m on performances which is a good way to do a deal in this climate. If a player was to contribute to a champions league win I wouldn't begrudge passing another couple of mil over to the selling club for the player. If there was to be anyone further in it'd probably be Clyne....either way if clubs try and bend Fergie over the barrell he won't be too concerned starting with the squad we have now and either will I.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 7:44 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    Strootman next.......and Baines;)....4 really good players...strenght our team a lot. Strootman is the key to future success.....is same for Holland...No Kevin Strootman for Holland = no success = a loosing team. Holland is so poor. Strootman is a complete central midfield player. Aggresive good ballwinner, still he is technically good with the ball and has abilities to create chances and score goals. All in for Strootman next Sir Alex. I am satisfy with Kawaga and Powell. Strootman and Baines will make a good summer for me....then we are ready to make our noisy neighbours silent next season. Strootman is the key/factor to our future success....Strootman = our new Bryan Robson on left foot = our new legend. Strootman has high winning mentality, that is why is a good aggresive ballwinner. A good ballwinner is sight of a winner.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 1:13 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    I was not able to find compose so i'm posting my thought as reply for no hard feelings don't mistake me. Man_u under sir alex need a dutch to win trophies this is like myth holding the current scenario rather than moving in for baines who of course is a breath taking performer week in week out but at 26 i think he's a bit older instead i would like man_u to go in for psv's "ERIK PIETERS" or "JETRO WIELLEMS" both are good young players loaded with potential. Erik Pieters who had a good 2010/11 season was expected to do the same and make Left Back his own for both club and country but injury curtailed his season. Jetro Weillems when called upon to fill the void did it with aplomb he took life like fish to water. Both of them would be a good signing at, 23 Pieters has already racked up over 150 starts at club level and 25 for his country, at only 18 weillems is tipped to reach great heights. With a player for cover in the club itself any one of them can be priced out from PSV's grasp for a much reasonable price.......................
    Sury***
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:25 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    Tuor:
    kingcat0:
    lewis.No.9:
    so let me get this straight, we have already bought Kagawa which If it were not for his contract situation would have cost us £30millionish and would of been considered a big signing purely because of money paid. We now have Powell who looks a great English prospect, we are being HEAVILY linked with Modric....and there are still rumours about Sneijder. So ALL of this hugely positive activity ALREADY considering the window internationally isnt even open until July the 1st..............and your still intent on talking negative BS...............

    just leave mate please..............

    Kagawa DIDN'T COST US £30M. The whole point is that if he HAD cost that much money, Ferguson wouldv'e brought up the "value in the market" monologue...

    And if you had bothered to remove your head from Ferguson's backside BEFORE REPLYING, you will have read that I am very happy to sign cheaper, younger players AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE TALENT

    So, last season, when we agreed a deal to sign Nasri - and were hoping to sign WS, we were going to pay both Arseanal and Inter a big IOU?

    This club could buy any player they wanted; but the manager doesn't adhere to such policies.

    He spends when we really need it; and this summer, he will spend.

    and that's why we WON THE TREBLE OF NOTHING last season. at least it's better than not winning anything eh. Yeah, you could call me a gloryhunter, but i thinks SAF don't really have the money. The reason why he shouted nonsense like no value in the market or whatsoever is because The glazers told him to do so to shut up the fans. Remember Veron, Rooney, if it was today, the price well in 40 million range because of inflation or money value decreasing. When SAF retires, he will reveal everything.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:22 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    Martinez is going to be a city player PERIOD ...
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:18 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    ll KuRuPT x MuFc ll:
    weareno1:
    ll KuRuPT x MuFc ll:
    weareno1:
    we have signed some craking players in the past. stam, ruud, keane, cantona, cole, yorke, rio. but you have to ask yourself would we have signed them under this climate
    Thats the trick aint it. Like i said before you cut your cloth accordingly. Football has changed and some clubs have thrown out their traditions to move along with it. HOWEVER we haven't done this and still continue to succeed at the highest level. This is because our model is the RIGHT way to go about running a football club. Take villa for example *** learner when he bought the club has spent millions of his own cash to try and bring villa to the next level. Has it worked??? are they in a better position than when he took over?? its hard to say but they are a mid table side. Now he refuses to spend as much as he did do in the past because what he has spent has yielded very little. Yes we have broken transfer records many times. HOWEVER times move on even if we didnt have all the debt i doubt we would still be willing to pay over the odds for players. Its just not the right way to run a Football Club LONG TERM. Sir alex has transformed our great club into the global power it is by doing things the right way. So we cant buy world class players like $hitty and chelski do but we will be here when thier owners get bored and if they dont GOOD we always prove our mettle when the gauntlet is thrown down. SOME of our fans have become like spoilt children who throw their toys out the pram because they didnt get what they want you dont like it thiers the door you wont be missed i assure you of that
    i dont have any problem with our model. what im just saying is theres so much mony banded aroud these days that i dont think we would hae signed these players in todays time. i am a season ticket holder and i have been for about 15 years considering the fact that i am only 20 so im united throuh and throuh dont you worry about that. my only problem and fear is it is fergie keeping this club where it is. i like other season ticket holders is fed up with breaking my bank accounts just to pay debts. and if we are afloat because of fergie wjhat happens when he leaves. my heart dosent want tobelieve it but my head tells me there is more to rumours that this would be fergies last season (thats another arguement). and if this is so the glazers would have to take their losses to and just go through with the IPO.
    I dont think any of us know what the future holds and you may be right. BUT the moment we disregard our traditions and history (whats sets us apart from the rest) is the moment i will stop supporting our beloved club and solely support FC. I hope it never comes to that but if it does i will walk away from the club i love. (i already am a fan of FC i however support united)
    I think the glazers have imposed some limitations. keane was a transfer record, as was cole, ruud, stam, torke, ferdinand, veron, rooney were all huge transfer fees. the facts speak for themselves before the glazers when transfers started going crazy after 2001, we signed ferdinand, veron, rooney all for over 25 million. (nearly one every year). since then we have only signed berbatov for over the 20m. so without question we are not paying so much. we always developed players , found bargins (ole, schmeichel etc)and bought in the odd player at big money to compiments them. If u look at how tranfer fees increased we were up with the top clubs in the world in the 2000`s until the glazers took over. then we backed away from it. we still develop young players, we still find bargins, but we dont compete for those top end players or maybe we do (benzema, villa, snejider, hazard) but we dont have the financial clout to just tip them signing for us. we are still developing players, still bring
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:10 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    man.utd17:
    ll KuRuPT x MuFc ll:
    WE DONT BY STARS WE MAKE THEM...THATS THE UNITED WAY..ROONEY RIO CARRICK RUUD STAM KEANO VIDIC RONALDO OLE/ NONE of THEM were world class when we signed them. ALL of them proved themselves to be world class by succeeding at the highest , level. VERON was world class when we signed him and what happened...exactly.
    :) very well explained here mate
    Got to disagree with this. Everton made Rooney and was it obvious to anyone with the slightest knowledge of football that he was going to be a massive player whichever club he ended up playing for. Thats why we paid £30 million for a teenager - an astonishing amount when you consider Powell is the same age and just cost us £6 million. Ditto Ferdinand. Already recognised as having the ability to be one of the best defenders of his generation when he was at Leeds. Hence why we broke the British transfer record for him.

    Every single player in the list above was bought in having been developed at another club, none came through our youth system, which in my opinion would be a prerequisite for fullfilling your definition of "made". Barcelona made Messi, Xavi, Inesta et al at La Masia the same cannot be said of any of the players you mentioned above.

    Most of the players mentioned above were also bought in for big fees. Vidic aside, none of them were unknown, unpolished gems that we plucked from obscurity.

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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:09 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    weareno1:
    ll KuRuPT x MuFc ll:
    weareno1:
    we have signed some craking players in the past. stam, ruud, keane, cantona, cole, yorke, rio. but you have to ask yourself would we have signed them under this climate
    Thats the trick aint it. Like i said before you cut your cloth accordingly. Football has changed and some clubs have thrown out their traditions to move along with it. HOWEVER we haven't done this and still continue to succeed at the highest level. This is because our model is the RIGHT way to go about running a football club. Take villa for example *** learner when he bought the club has spent millions of his own cash to try and bring villa to the next level. Has it worked??? are they in a better position than when he took over?? its hard to say but they are a mid table side. Now he refuses to spend as much as he did do in the past because what he has spent has yielded very little. Yes we have broken transfer records many times. HOWEVER times move on even if we didnt have all the debt i doubt we would still be willing to pay over the odds for players. Its just not the right way to run a Football Club LONG TERM. Sir alex has transformed our great club into the global power it is by doing things the right way. So we cant buy world class players like $hitty and chelski do but we will be here when thier owners get bored and if they dont GOOD we always prove our mettle when the gauntlet is thrown down. SOME of our fans have become like spoilt children who throw their toys out the pram because they didnt get what they want you dont like it thiers the door you wont be missed i assure you of that
    i dont have any problem with our model. what im just saying is theres so much mony banded aroud these days that i dont think we would hae signed these players in todays time. i am a season ticket holder and i have been for about 15 years considering the fact that i am only 20 so im united throuh and throuh dont you worry about that. my only problem and fear is it is fergie keeping this club where it is. i like other season ticket holders is fed up with breaking my bank accounts just to pay debts. and if we are afloat because of fergie wjhat happens when he leaves. my heart dosent want tobelieve it but my head tells me there is more to rumours that this would be fergies last season (thats another arguement). and if this is so the glazers would have to take their losses to and just go through with the IPO.
    I dont think any of us know what the future holds and you may be right. BUT the moment we disregard our traditions and history (whats sets us apart from the rest) is the moment i will stop supporting our beloved club and solely support FC. I hope it never comes to that but if it does i will walk away from the club i love. (i already am a fan of FC i however support united)
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:05 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    matt sleet:
    CHOPPER1976:
    fieryeagle:

    Why are no rumors around Martinez??

    Bilbao want a small fortune, sadly we aint going to pay it!! class act Martinez, shame really
    I thought he had a 29million buy out clause? I also heard though that the bilbao manager signed his new contract on the condition the club tried everything they could to keep hold of martinez. For me 29million is not that expensive for someone so good. We spent that on Rio after all saying that I think even if we were in for him, it would be hard to fight off city and barca (I was hoping barca would sign thiago silva so as not to go for martinez)
    i heard it was 42m euros.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 12:04 PM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    futhermore i mentioned those players because they were instrumental to us winning those trophies in the last 20 years. agreed a good academy would give you long term sustainability, but you still need ti make important signings and add genuine quality to the team. if there is any truth to the arguement that fergie is having to choose transfer targets because of restrictions on how much he can spend then it isnt fair to him.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 11:59 AM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    CHOPPER1976:
    fieryeagle:

    Why are no rumors around Martinez??

    Bilbao want a small fortune, sadly we aint going to pay it!! class act Martinez, shame really
    I thought he had a 29million buy out clause? I also heard though that the bilbao manager signed his new contract on the condition the club tried everything they could to keep hold of martinez. For me 29million is not that expensive for someone so good. We spent that on Rio after all saying that I think even if we were in for him, it would be hard to fight off city and barca (I was hoping barca would sign thiago silva so as not to go for martinez)
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  • 13 Jun 2012 11:58 AM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    ll KuRuPT x MuFc ll:
    weareno1:
    we have signed some craking players in the past. stam, ruud, keane, cantona, cole, yorke, rio. but you have to ask yourself would we have signed them under this climate
    Thats the trick aint it. Like i said before you cut your cloth accordingly. Football has changed and some clubs have thrown out their traditions to move along with it. HOWEVER we haven't done this and still continue to succeed at the highest level. This is because our model is the RIGHT way to go about running a football club. Take villa for example *** learner when he bought the club has spent millions of his own cash to try and bring villa to the next level. Has it worked??? are they in a better position than when he took over?? its hard to say but they are a mid table side. Now he refuses to spend as much as he did do in the past because what he has spent has yielded very little. Yes we have broken transfer records many times. HOWEVER times move on even if we didnt have all the debt i doubt we would still be willing to pay over the odds for players. Its just not the right way to run a Football Club LONG TERM. Sir alex has transformed our great club into the global power it is by doing things the right way. So we cant buy world class players like $hitty and chelski do but we will be here when thier owners get bored and if they dont GOOD we always prove our mettle when the gauntlet is thrown down. SOME of our fans have become like spoilt children who throw their toys out the pram because they didnt get what they want you dont like it thiers the door you wont be missed i assure you of that
    i dont have any problem with our model. what im just saying is theres so much mony banded aroud these days that i dont think we would hae signed these players in todays time. i am a season ticket holder and i have been for about 15 years considering the fact that i am only 20 so im united throuh and throuh dont you worry about that. my only problem and fear is it is fergie keeping this club where it is. i like other season ticket holders is fed up with breaking my bank accounts just to pay debts. and if we are afloat because of fergie wjhat happens when he leaves. my heart dosent want tobelieve it but my head tells me there is more to rumours that this would be fergies last season (thats another arguement). and if this is so the glazers would have to take their losses to and just go through with the IPO.
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  • 13 Jun 2012 11:43 AM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    fieryeagle:

    Why are no rumors around Martinez??

    Bilbao want a small fortune, sadly we aint going to pay it!! class act Martinez, shame really
    Bryan Robson is No1
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  • 13 Jun 2012 11:39 AM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    weareno1:
    we have signed some craking players in the past. stam, ruud, keane, cantona, cole, yorke, rio. but you have to ask yourself would we have signed them under this climate
    Thats the trick aint it. Like i said before you cut your cloth accordingly. Football has changed and some clubs have thrown out their traditions to move along with it. HOWEVER we haven't done this and still continue to succeed at the highest level. This is because our model is the RIGHT way to go about running a football club. Take villa for example *** learner when he bought the club has spent millions of his own cash to try and bring villa to the next level. Has it worked??? are they in a better position than when he took over?? its hard to say but they are a mid table side. Now he refuses to spend as much as he did do in the past because what he has spent has yielded very little. Yes we have broken transfer records many times. HOWEVER times move on even if we didnt have all the debt i doubt we would still be willing to pay over the odds for players. Its just not the right way to run a Football Club LONG TERM. Sir alex has transformed our great club into the global power it is by doing things the right way. So we cant buy world class players like $hitty and chelski do but we will be here when thier owners get bored and if they dont GOOD we always prove our mettle when the gauntlet is thrown down. SOME of our fans have become like spoilt children who throw their toys out the pram because they didnt get what they want you dont like it thiers the door you wont be missed i assure you of that
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  • 13 Jun 2012 11:31 AM

    Re: 2 down 2 more and our shopping is done.

    kingcat0:
    fieryeagle:
    Why are no rumors around Martinez??

    He's too expensive for us.

    I don't think the Modric transfer will materialise either.

    People need to accept that United can't buy big players until the Glazers have left. We simply don't have any funds for the best players.

    Whether Ferguson wants to pretend its because "we make big players, not buy them" or because "there's no value in the market", its just down to meagre transfer budgets, summer after summer. We have to be happy with buying the younger players, which, as long as they have the natural talent, is fine by me

    we was going to buy hazard for 32 mill ? a club record. ???????? ... although i do agree to some extent we wont spend to big on certain playrers
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