manuchamp99:

Pijo:

manu wr10:

forevergiggs:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

Us old timers care,lol. I've been a football supporter 40years when every game you had numbers 1-11 on the pitch with number 12 the substitute, these things stay with you. It's getting ridiculous now with players wearing numbers like 99. WTF is that all about?

Haha good old robinho and i think ronaldinho at one point had the number 90 although i might be wrong.

I think the worst example of this that I ever saw was Ivan Zamorano for Inter Milan after they signed Ronaldo. He gave up the number 9 shirt for Ronaldo (for sponsorship reasons or something) and took number 18 for himself, but insisted on a little + sign being placed between the 1 and the 8 on his shirt. http://realsoccerfacts.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/do-you-know-why-ivan-zamorano-wore-18.html

Ronaldinho had the number 80 - after the year he was born.

Yep thats the one. Couldnt quite remember which one exactly. Pijo, i never knew about zamorano, seems like a good bloke though ahah.

owner:

Oh boy! Here comes the numpty! So you're understanding of my post is that I meant that the player wearing the #7 should be the only world class player in the squad? Hahaha. Amazing! Scholes is one the best midfielders in the world but as a Manchester United player, he has always been lower in the pecking order to a good number of players like Beckham, Keane, Cantona, Giggs, Ronaldo, Rooney despite being not just a United legend but a legend of the game itself. By your thinking, we should just sign a super #7 and then fill the rest of the squad with average players. I don't know whats eating away your brain cells but you should think really hard before you post. And do yourself a favour and don't reply to this!

So you are saying scholes wasnt good enough to wear the the number 7 shirt for united at any one point in his career as there have been better players in the squad? Last tiem i checked a certain Zinedine Zidane said that paul scholes was the best central midfielder of his generation. Btw I dont remember saying we should sign a 'super number 7'? please do quote me where i have insinuated that. Also the 'average player's comment too, tell me where i said that. And you call me the one without brain cells... Ha laughable.

i think we should look around are current squad first,before we start thinkin of who should get the no.7 shirt.i believe theres a few that could do it proud..

if anyone deserves number 7 it's rooney.

Lets hope we can get someone up to the task this time! Owen did not fit the bill either as he was a red and he joined us well past his prime! We need fresh blood and talent having the will to dirve the team forward.

take a chill pill

Cyril:

iam_kramer:

Monte_Cristo:

Pijo:

owner:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

You obviously know nothing about football. about tradition. about history. about Manchester United. I would be surprised if you one day said that football was pointless and that you don't get the logic behind 22 men chasing one small round thing on that green grassy thing. The no. 7 jersey is part of our tradition and history and the men who have previously worn it have made it more important than all our other squad numbers. I'm dismayed to have to educate you on this.

Yeah, I "obviously" know nothing about football. It's the typical view of the football terrace moron that you think yourself superior to another person because they fail to see how the significance of a number on the back of someone's shirt makes a blind bit of difference. It's the same pathetic argument that people like you sling around when someone has a different view to you when you say "But how many matches have you ever been to?" in response to any comment.

Yes, the number 7 has had a few good players wear it in the past, but it did not, in any way, shape or form, contribute to the standard or quality of their play. It is not in any imaginable way more important than any other number on the backs of any other player. What is important, and the absolutely unquestionable singular importance is how well the wearer of said shirt plays. Ronaldo would have been as great a player if he'd worn any other number, as would Cantona or Best. It makes no difference whatsoever except to materialistic bandwagoners such as yourself.

Case in point, by the way, that you think you know it all about football: you highlight the number 7 jersey as the most important, however, if we were being sentimental and traditionalist I would strongly suggest that the number 11 were to be the most significant - due to the fact that the most highly decorated player in the history of English football, who also happens to be the player with the most appearances for Manchester United wears it.

sorry mate but ur abit right and a bit wrong here.. yes logically the number is just a number and it is always down to the player to be his best.. but wat the previous guy was saying here is that based on tradition and the players who worn the 7 jersey are almost all Legends.. Ronaldo, Eric cantona, David Beckham, Christiano Ronaldo, Eric Cantona, Bryan Robson and George Best, Bryan Robson.... this isnt coincidental.. these players earned to wear the number 7 and thats what TRADITION means..

got to say i disagree with Pijo. i think that having the number seven is extremely important in our club. and hopefully gives the basis for a player to succeed here. obviously there is no "scientific" reason.
but i just think that the faith given to such player wearing that number would be a huge boost to their confidence. anyway. i wouldn't mind giving it to Powell as he's going to be here for a while.
but, hopefully he's not wearing it in the reserves!

There is scientific reason. Whoever wear the #7, #10 or even #9, will be compared with the respective legend. Look at Berbatov, who has been criticised game after game as long as he doesn't score like VN, regardless of how much contribution he makes to the team. There is no way that Powell will be given #7, before he proves himself. I don't know why someone actually raise such suggestion but somehow nobody mention that Djembar should get #10 or Miller or Park when they initially join the club. So you know that Powell is going to displace Valencia and Nani on his debut season? If anyone who has "earned" it, it should be Valencia or Nani, even Young has somehow made his stamp.

Thank You, mates. Now I can go hunting...

manu wr10:

owner:

Pijo:

owner:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

You obviously know nothing about football. about tradition. about history. about Manchester United. I would be surprised if you one day said that football was pointless and that you don't get the logic behind 22 men chasing one small round thing on that green grassy thing. The no. 7 jersey is part of our tradition and history and the men who have previously worn it have made it more important than all our other squad numbers. I'm dismayed to have to educate you on this.

Yeah, I "obviously" know nothing about football. It's the typical view of the football terrace moron that you think yourself superior to another person because they fail to see how the significance of a number on the back of someone's shirt makes a blind bit of difference. It's the same pathetic argument that people like you sling around when someone has a different view to you when you say "But how many matches have you ever been to?" in response to any comment.

Yes, the number 7 has had a few good players wear it in the past, but it did not, in any way, shape or form, contribute to the standard or quality of their play. It is not in any imaginable way more important than any other number on the backs of any other player. What is important, and the absolutely unquestionable singular importance is how well the wearer of said shirt plays. Ronaldo would have been as great a player if he'd worn any other number, as would Cantona or Best. It makes no difference whatsoever except to materialistic bandwagoners such as yourself.

Case in point, by the way, that you think you know it all about football: you highlight the number 7 jersey as the most important, however, if we were being sentimental and traditionalist I would strongly suggest that the number 11 were to be the most significant - due to the fact that the most highly decorated player in the history of English football, who also happens to be the player with the most appearances for Manchester United wears it.

Well mate, since you insist on defending ignorance, I rest my case. You should keep around. Its these differences in I.Q among others that make society such a beautiful thing!

Well you both sound quite daft to be honest and your IQ's arnt any higher than each others. Yes numbers give you more encouragement to succeed and live up to past players but by no stretch of the imagination do they make you a better player. Tell me who apart from scholes in United's history was also a wonderful player who wore the number 18?

Oh boy! Here comes the numpty! So you're understanding of my post is that I meant that the player wearing the #7 should be the only world class player in the squad? Hahaha. Amazing! Scholes is one the best midfielders in the world but as a Manchester United player, he has always been lower in the pecking order to a good number of players like Beckham, Keane, Cantona, Giggs, Ronaldo, Rooney despite being not just a United legend but a legend of the game itself. By your thinking, we should just sign a super #7 and then fill the rest of the squad with average players. I don't know whats eating away your brain cells but you should think really hard before you post. And do yourself a favour and don't reply to this!

iam_kramer:

Monte_Cristo:

Pijo:

owner:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

You obviously know nothing about football. about tradition. about history. about Manchester United. I would be surprised if you one day said that football was pointless and that you don't get the logic behind 22 men chasing one small round thing on that green grassy thing. The no. 7 jersey is part of our tradition and history and the men who have previously worn it have made it more important than all our other squad numbers. I'm dismayed to have to educate you on this.

Yeah, I "obviously" know nothing about football. It's the typical view of the football terrace moron that you think yourself superior to another person because they fail to see how the significance of a number on the back of someone's shirt makes a blind bit of difference. It's the same pathetic argument that people like you sling around when someone has a different view to you when you say "But how many matches have you ever been to?" in response to any comment.

Yes, the number 7 has had a few good players wear it in the past, but it did not, in any way, shape or form, contribute to the standard or quality of their play. It is not in any imaginable way more important than any other number on the backs of any other player. What is important, and the absolutely unquestionable singular importance is how well the wearer of said shirt plays. Ronaldo would have been as great a player if he'd worn any other number, as would Cantona or Best. It makes no difference whatsoever except to materialistic bandwagoners such as yourself.

Case in point, by the way, that you think you know it all about football: you highlight the number 7 jersey as the most important, however, if we were being sentimental and traditionalist I would strongly suggest that the number 11 were to be the most significant - due to the fact that the most highly decorated player in the history of English football, who also happens to be the player with the most appearances for Manchester United wears it.

sorry mate but ur abit right and a bit wrong here.. yes logically the number is just a number and it is always down to the player to be his best.. but wat the previous guy was saying here is that based on tradition and the players who worn the 7 jersey are almost all Legends.. Ronaldo, Eric cantona, David Beckham, Christiano Ronaldo, Eric Cantona, Bryan Robson and George Best, Bryan Robson.... this isnt coincidental.. these players earned to wear the number 7 and thats what TRADITION means..

got to say i disagree with Pijo. i think that having the number seven is extremely important in our club. and hopefully gives the basis for a player to succeed here. obviously there is no "scientific" reason.
but i just think that the faith given to such player wearing that number would be a huge boost to their confidence. anyway. i wouldn't mind giving it to Powell as he's going to be here for a while.
but, hopefully he's not wearing it in the reserves!

There is scientific reason. Whoever wear the #7, #10 or even #9, will be compared with the respective legend. Look at Berbatov, who has been criticised game after game as long as he doesn't score like VN, regardless of how much contribution he makes to the team. There is no way that Powell will be given #7, before he proves himself. I don't know why someone actually raise such suggestion but somehow nobody mention that Djembar should get #10 or Miller or Park when they initially join the club. So you know that Powell is going to displace Valencia and Nani on his debut season? If anyone who has "earned" it, it should be Valencia or Nani, even Young has somehow made his stamp.

Monte_Cristo:

Pijo:

owner:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

You obviously know nothing about football. about tradition. about history. about Manchester United. I would be surprised if you one day said that football was pointless and that you don't get the logic behind 22 men chasing one small round thing on that green grassy thing. The no. 7 jersey is part of our tradition and history and the men who have previously worn it have made it more important than all our other squad numbers. I'm dismayed to have to educate you on this.

Yeah, I "obviously" know nothing about football. It's the typical view of the football terrace moron that you think yourself superior to another person because they fail to see how the significance of a number on the back of someone's shirt makes a blind bit of difference. It's the same pathetic argument that people like you sling around when someone has a different view to you when you say "But how many matches have you ever been to?" in response to any comment.

Yes, the number 7 has had a few good players wear it in the past, but it did not, in any way, shape or form, contribute to the standard or quality of their play. It is not in any imaginable way more important than any other number on the backs of any other player. What is important, and the absolutely unquestionable singular importance is how well the wearer of said shirt plays. Ronaldo would have been as great a player if he'd worn any other number, as would Cantona or Best. It makes no difference whatsoever except to materialistic bandwagoners such as yourself.

Case in point, by the way, that you think you know it all about football: you highlight the number 7 jersey as the most important, however, if we were being sentimental and traditionalist I would strongly suggest that the number 11 were to be the most significant - due to the fact that the most highly decorated player in the history of English football, who also happens to be the player with the most appearances for Manchester United wears it.

sorry mate but ur abit right and a bit wrong here.. yes logically the number is just a number and it is always down to the player to be his best.. but wat the previous guy was saying here is that based on tradition and the players who worn the 7 jersey are almost all Legends.. Ronaldo, Eric cantona, David Beckham, Christiano Ronaldo, Eric Cantona, Bryan Robson and George Best, Bryan Robson.... this isnt coincidental.. these players earned to wear the number 7 and thats what TRADITION means..

Exactly! I really tried explaining it to the guy. Its at clubs like Man City where such things like shirt numbers are irrelevant because they lack significant tradition. Its where you'll find Yaya Toure wearing shirt #42 and Aguero #16, and nobody cares. Its why Rooney changed from #8 to #10. Its why Everyone in Madrid cares about who is wearing Shirt #23. Its why Messi didnt keep his Shirt #19 when Ronaldinho left. The list of players (at clubs with tradition) is endless... These players are usually the best at their respective clubs and I believe donning these shirt numbers inspires them in some way.

Pijo:

manu wr10:

forevergiggs:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

Us old timers care,lol. I've been a football supporter 40years when every game you had numbers 1-11 on the pitch with number 12 the substitute, these things stay with you. It's getting ridiculous now with players wearing numbers like 99. WTF is that all about?

Haha good old robinho and i think ronaldinho at one point had the number 90 although i might be wrong.

I think the worst example of this that I ever saw was Ivan Zamorano for Inter Milan after they signed Ronaldo. He gave up the number 9 shirt for Ronaldo (for sponsorship reasons or something) and took number 18 for himself, but insisted on a little + sign being placed between the 1 and the 8 on his shirt. http://realsoccerfacts.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/do-you-know-why-ivan-zamorano-wore-18.html

Ronaldinho had the number 80 - after the year he was born.

owner:

Pijo:

owner:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

You obviously know nothing about football. about tradition. about history. about Manchester United. I would be surprised if you one day said that football was pointless and that you don't get the logic behind 22 men chasing one small round thing on that green grassy thing. The no. 7 jersey is part of our tradition and history and the men who have previously worn it have made it more important than all our other squad numbers. I'm dismayed to have to educate you on this.

Yeah, I "obviously" know nothing about football. It's the typical view of the football terrace moron that you think yourself superior to another person because they fail to see how the significance of a number on the back of someone's shirt makes a blind bit of difference. It's the same pathetic argument that people like you sling around when someone has a different view to you when you say "But how many matches have you ever been to?" in response to any comment.

Yes, the number 7 has had a few good players wear it in the past, but it did not, in any way, shape or form, contribute to the standard or quality of their play. It is not in any imaginable way more important than any other number on the backs of any other player. What is important, and the absolutely unquestionable singular importance is how well the wearer of said shirt plays. Ronaldo would have been as great a player if he'd worn any other number, as would Cantona or Best. It makes no difference whatsoever except to materialistic bandwagoners such as yourself.

Case in point, by the way, that you think you know it all about football: you highlight the number 7 jersey as the most important, however, if we were being sentimental and traditionalist I would strongly suggest that the number 11 were to be the most significant - due to the fact that the most highly decorated player in the history of English football, who also happens to be the player with the most appearances for Manchester United wears it.

Well mate, since you insist on defending ignorance, I rest my case. You should keep around. Its these differences in I.Q among others that make society such a beautiful thing!

Well you both sound quite daft to be honest and your IQ's arnt any higher than each others. Yes numbers give you more encouragement to succeed and live up to past players but by no stretch of the imagination do they make you a better player. Tell me who apart from scholes in United's history was also a wonderful player who wore the number 18?

Pijo:

owner:

Pijo:

Who cares what number shirt they will wear?! What possible difference could that make? Absolutely none. Do you think Ronaldo was a great player because he wore number 7? Or perhaps it was because he worked hard and trained well when he was younger, and his training and match performance actually yielded the results, rather than a number on his back. What about Vidic though? He wears number 15, but wait, that isn't a first-team defenders number? How can he be a good player? Really the most pointless debate of all the ridiculous topics on here.

You obviously know nothing about football. about tradition. about history. about Manchester United. I would be surprised if you one day said that football was pointless and that you don't get the logic behind 22 men chasing one small round thing on that green grassy thing. The no. 7 jersey is part of our tradition and history and the men who have previously worn it have made it more important than all our other squad numbers. I'm dismayed to have to educate you on this.

Yeah, I "obviously" know nothing about football. It's the typical view of the football terrace moron that you think yourself superior to another person because they fail to see how the significance of a number on the back of someone's shirt makes a blind bit of difference. It's the same pathetic argument that people like you sling around when someone has a different view to you when you say "But how many matches have you ever been to?" in response to any comment.

Yes, the number 7 has had a few good players wear it in the past, but it did not, in any way, shape or form, contribute to the standard or quality of their play. It is not in any imaginable way more important than any other number on the backs of any other player. What is important, and the absolutely unquestionable singular importance is how well the wearer of said shirt plays. Ronaldo would have been as great a player if he'd worn any other number, as would Cantona or Best. It makes no difference whatsoever except to materialistic bandwagoners such as yourself.

Case in point, by the way, that you think you know it all about football: you highlight the number 7 jersey as the most important, however, if we were being sentimental and traditionalist I would strongly suggest that the number 11 were to be the most significant - due to the fact that the most highly decorated player in the history of English football, who also happens to be the player with the most appearances for Manchester United wears it.

Well mate, since you insist on defending ignorance, I rest my case. You should keep around. Its these differences in I.Q among others that make society such a beautiful thing!

I reckon Kagawa will get No. 7 I can just see it... Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I'm going for...

@therealry: Why do you lock your posts? The only time it's effective is if you are the OP and therefore only post so nobody can either reply or quote you.

Otherwise if it's possible to post - it's easy to replace a quote with your name and copy-pasted quote!

paulscholesgoals:

if owen can get it, so can Powell

Fair comparison...