therearly Deary dear you mean your petted lip is showing.How do I know Because I am what you are not a realist and I happen to think it is not City that will be our problem but three teams,Unlikely I wou ld be looking to get rid of a new incumbent one season in and you seem to be unable to take on board my main point I think he has lost a lot of his Zing,do you get that. All you are required to say is I disagree with you.Simplicity itself.

forever united94:

Bayern are after guardiola to take over at the start of next season when there current manager leaves.

I've read the stories but how did you translate Bayern want him to hes going to Munich. Who says he wants to go there or that they will agree terms and conditions? We don't need to act at all, we have a manager. Also Mourinho will be the manager in a year or two.

parryheid:

therealry. Ha.then try changing it to The Reality.Look man I responded to a post about Guardiols maybe going to Bayern.You have difficulty accepting my view,like I said that's tough get over it and for goodness sake don't let me see you on here next season yelping about how bad we are.Do you want your old man grafting when he's +70 or what.

How do you know we will be bad next year (your WUM is showing)? Of course we could bring Pep in then finish behind City again and not do so well in the CL, so who is your plan for when you want him out? What difference does it make how old SAF is, as long as he can do the job and one season doesn't prove he can't. Of course we don't know for sure that Pep can even handle the pressure of another big club, it already got to him once didn't it.

The fact that you want to make so much out of my user name, pretty much shows the emptiness of your opinion.

therealry. Ha.then try changing it to The Reality.Look man I responded to a post about Guardiols maybe going to Bayern.You have difficulty accepting my view,like I said that's tough get over it and for goodness sake don't let me see you on here next season yelping about how bad we are.Do you want your old man grafting when he's +70 or what.

You might want to read my name correctly before telling me to act on it. It just makes you look bad, I mean if you can't read the name, you shouldn't be telling anyone to act on it. But we all get it, you want him forced out after one "off season" the rest of us think he deserves much better treatment than that. Thankfully SAF has a bit more fighting spirit then you display as a supporter. Always amazes me how many of our supporters lack the United fighting spirit.

The reality I said I hoped he would step down this season and why,not several posts,and the elasticity to bounce back?I'm afraid at +70 not very likely but you can make any number of excuses you wish I would suggest you look at your user name and act on it. I would imagine if at least Two more signings are not made this close season you are in for a severe disappointment like the rest of us next season.

This post lag respect towards SAF please p i s s who said he where leaving now or next year??????????????????????

parryheid:

don't want him out

Bull, you have made several posts saying you want him out and you even said you want him to go be an ambassador like Pele, that is not sending him upstairs to the club. It all h as to do with this being the first time in a while he did not win a trophy and in fairness it was just by goal diff. that we lost the title, nobody likes that, but not a reason to force SAF out. Morrison is looking like a smart move to have let him go. Pogba, well time will tell, Juve seem to want him but also don't seem to be making way for him to step right in as a starter either. Not the first season we lost a few games we probably shouldn't have and won't be the last. In terms of how we played in the PL we were actually better then the previous season, just unfortunately so was City. One off season is not a sign of having lost his zing. Wanting him gone after one off season is a sign of having lost yours.

A rough time in the CL, but not the first time that has happened and when it happened last we bounced back quite nicely. Certainly the injuries that he fought through with the club show has not lost his zing, very few managers could have kept a club with such a large injury list in title contention. I would also point out that while the CL was horrible for us, that we also were coming off a run of being in 3 out of 4 finals, been better to win more than one of them, but that is the way football is sometimes and being in 3 out of 4 finals is nothing to sneeze at.

It just comes down to it being an off year and you want him gone.

Additioanally, Pep is not the clear cut best, has not been around long enough to prove that. Either by rebuilding a team into a winner or by taking more than one club to the top. He is very good. But he still has to prove he can do that over a long period of time. Nor has he proven he can stand the pressure of managing long term at a high level of competition.

but you go ahead and show more loyalty to a manager who has done nothing for United, then one who has done everything.

For all he has done, including in the few season immediately before this one, what he deserves is the chance to keep working his plan not being force out of town in a childish fit.

parryheid:

I want the best and that is Guardiola Fact.

I see where you are coming from when you say this, but no coach is certain to take over a club and have a 100% chance of being successful. That being said, he could come here and wipe the floor with the other teams but time will tell. At the moment isn't he taking a one year break so there is no real point talking about him taking over unless Sir Alex has had a word with him about the job in the near future. For the time being he will still be our coach and that shouldn't be seen as a bad thing!

The reality. Nope you didn't call it right and it certainly isn't the first season we havent won a trophy.It is the first season he seems unable to recognize a player needs dropped and doesn't do it,the fist season he has used a smokescreen Pogba and Morrison stunt their development rather than just strengthen our midfield.Play an experimental team vs Blackburn costly that.Not have his team play to overcome a one goal deficit vs City for a whole half of the game first time I have seen him surrender in that manner I wont talk about the other competitions we surrendered in like I said lost a lot of his zing. But hey you disagree then that's tough.And I don't want him out far from it he can go upstairs.I want the best and that is Guardiola Fact.

manu wr10:

therealry:

manu wr10:

therealry:

parryheid:

I,personally hope Sir Alec does step down before the season starts and we get Guardiola to take over seamlessly

Out of curiousity why such a lack of loyalty to someone who has been extremely successful and loyal to the club?

Probably more so to do with the fact that a manager of Guardiola's potential and stature(arguably of course) isnt available every day and well lets face it, SIr Alex isnt going to be around for ever.

So essentially, "Sorry Sir Alex, you can still do the job and you have done great things for us but loyalty means nothing because we want the shiny new guy" fair enough.

I was merely interpreting what i believed what Parry meant. Im pretty sure if Sir Alex wants Guardiola to succeed him he will definately step down whenever Guardiola is available. There will be no need for the speech to kindly ask him to leave. More so the man is United through and through and he will know that another manager with Guardiola's credentials isnt readily available and will know that this is best way forward for United in the long run. Thats if and only if Sir Alex does infact want Guardiola to succeed which is not at all certain

Yeah I know and since Parry responded I went back an edited my comment to you, as it seems he has given us a clear view of what he meant and it wasn't this.

mazhar08:

pele 10:

redwizardS:

Also the ibrahimovic disastor, what a waste of money

It happens. Look at Berbatov and who signed him? They are both great players who didn´t fit the system.

Exactly. That wasn't a disaster. The real disaster was not giving Bojan enough chances. What a talent he was, and Guardiola insisted in not giving him a chance, rather buying 3 players to be ahead of him (Ibra, Villa, Sanchez) instead of letting him play.

Mazhar, i don't know if Bojan is as good as you think he is. Yes he is a good player, but is he good enough for the top level teams? I think Barca's way of playing made him look a little better than he truly is. Watch now he'll score 20-25 goals next season just to prove me wrong hah***

pele 10:

redwizardS:

Also the ibrahimovic disastor, what a waste of money

It happens. Look at Berbatov and who signed him? They are both great players who didn´t fit the system.

Exactly. That wasn't a disaster. The real disaster was not giving Bojan enough chances. What a talent he was, and Guardiola insisted in not giving him a chance, rather buying 3 players to be ahead of him (Ibra, Villa, Sanchez) instead of letting him play.

therealry:

manu wr10:

therealry:

parryheid:

I,personally hope Sir Alec does step down before the season starts and we get Guardiola to take over seamlessly

Out of curiousity why such a lack of loyalty to someone who has been extremely successful and loyal to the club?

Probably more so to do with the fact that a manager of Guardiola's potential and stature(arguably of course) isnt available every day and well lets face it, SIr Alex isnt going to be around for ever.

So essentially, "Sorry Sir Alex, you can still do the job and you have done great things for us but loyalty means nothing because we want the shiny new guy" fair enough.

I was merely interpreting what i believed what Parry meant. Im pretty sure if Sir Alex wants Guardiola to succeed him he will definately step down whenever Guardiola is available. There will be no need for the speech to kindly ask him to leave. More so the man is United through and through and he will know that another manager with Guardiola's credentials isnt readily available and will know that this is best way forward for United in the long run. Thats if and only if Sir Alex does infact want Guardiola to succeed which is not at all certain

parryheid:

thereality. You probably wont like my reasons but here goes.Sir Alex is very loyal and deserves to be travelling the world as an Ambassador ie as Pele does as elder statesman.But my main reason is I think he has lost a lot of his zing last season, there are a number of instances which bothered me from the Liverpool game onwards a goodly number but it's not my intention to be controversial so I will leave it at that.Could be that I really should have your moniker anyway it's just my opinion.

So essential one season without a trophy and you want him out. Deserves to be traveling the world? What if that isn;t what he wants to do? Where do you even get that from? "Oy Sir Alex, you did not win a trophy this season, get out of here and head to China or someplace, just get out of my sight" That is essentially what you are saying.

So in reality I called it right, the first time, lack of loyalty. That's the United spirt.