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  • 30 Jun 2012 5:02 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    forever united94:
    Im sorry to say this but imo we cant trust fletcher anymore. He has been great for us and always gives his all but unfortunetly his illness will never go away. Just say he comes back and plays well during the season but in april when we are going for the title we are drawing 1-1 with 10 minutes left and need to win. Suddenly the team were playing go on a counter attack and fletcher's illness suddenly comes on strongly and he cant get back and it costs us the game an ultimately the title. How would you feel its not his fault but people will still blame him. My point is you never know when his illness will strike and for that reason we cant trust him. Its sad because he is one of my favourite players.
    I can speak with authority on this one as I have the same condition and its not just this condition thats the problem, other health issues occur...I keep in work but the tiredness at times is so overwhelming so far a professional like Fletch and they way he plays it will be very difficult...but NOT impossible...Com'on Fletch prove those doubters (including me) wrong! The treatment can controlled to a point by steroids and other medication as I said its the ancillary illnesses and conditions that may be a problem..I have not had an attck for over 12 years but suffer now from a lack of vitamin B12 which means I tire very easily.......getting the picture?
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  • 30 Jun 2012 3:13 PM

    Re: fletcher cant be trusted

    forever united94:
    Nibor1:
    pele 10:
    Nibor1:
    Don't like your title one bit! The poor man is ill FFS...Here is another scenario: Fletcher manages his illness and scores the winner in the last game of the season... handing us the title.

    Sounds way better than your doom and gloom post!

    That´s what I like about you Nibor1 always the suttle approach. I like your scenario way better to.
    Hi Pele 10...Thanks. The title of the post really annoyed me...I had two sides of the bed to get out of this morning and it appears that I chose the wrong one...again!

    Have a great weekend.

    i did change the title also i realise my scenario is a bit extreme but a more realistic problem would be we waste a sub every time his illness comes on. We would have less subs to change a game were playing poorly in.
    But seriously how is your scenario any different then Nani being taken off after Carragher kicked him or Cleverly after the Davies tackle or anyone of hundred other instances? They call them unplanned events because they are acts of god. So do you want to rob the club of one of it´s mainstay for what might happen?
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  • 30 Jun 2012 11:44 AM

    Re: fletcher cant be trusted

    It won't just come on very sudden like that. basically ulcerative colitis is not a nice disease to have but if u manage it and keep it under control its absolutely fine. i know 2 or 3 people who have chrones disease which is very similar but probably regarded as worse than colitis and after there first initial flare-up they now manage it correctly and dont really have any issues. they have to take a lot of medication and there are many foods they have to stay well clear of as long as they stick to there routine they shouldnt have a flare-up. the difference is is that fletch is in a more priveliged position being at united with all the doxtors and nutritionists they will devise a perfect diet for him and he will eat a lit of the time at the club so theres no reason for it to go wrong. hope this helps and lije others have said on here steve redgrave and lewis moody to name but 2 have had outstanding careers managing this disease correctly do please dnt write off our great servant fletch!
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  • 29 Jun 2012 8:09 PM

    Re: fletcher cant be trusted

    Nibor1:
    pele 10:
    Nibor1:
    Don't like your title one bit! The poor man is ill FFS...Here is another scenario: Fletcher manages his illness and scores the winner in the last game of the season... handing us the title.

    Sounds way better than your doom and gloom post!

    That´s what I like about you Nibor1 always the suttle approach. I like your scenario way better to.
    Hi Pele 10...Thanks. The title of the post really annoyed me...I had two sides of the bed to get out of this morning and it appears that I chose the wrong one...again!

    Have a great weekend.

    i did change the title also i realise my scenario is a bit extreme but a more realistic problem would be we waste a sub every time his illness comes on. We would have less subs to change a game were playing poorly in.
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  • 29 Jun 2012 6:15 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    I hope the lad recovers. I don't want to see him released, I want to see him recovered and back in a United strip. Get well soon Fletch.
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  • 29 Jun 2012 5:53 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    What is wrong with people, is anybody here qualified to talk on behalf of Darren Fletcher??

    The fact is that leading sports stars have lived with and competed with this disease very successfully, Lewis Moody former England Rugby Union Captain played with ulcerative Colitis throughout his career, playing at the highest level. Steve Redgrave was diagnosed only a few months before the Barcalona Games and had a half decent career.

    Until Fletcher or a spokesperson on his behalf speaks of his condition please do not guess and make assumptions. Many people go years without another flare up and these people do not have access to the best medical and nutrition advice money can buy.

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  • 29 Jun 2012 5:38 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    If fletcher comes back he would be a GREAT addition to the squad and i firmly believe in him. Your scenario is quiet extreme because an injury can occur at any point in the game..ferdinand, vidic,evra,rooney or any1 else could be running back to stop a player or pass and get a torn hamstring and pull up, thats football. Cleverley, anderson are all injury prone do you trust them? I trust united`s medical staff and SAF , so if they see it fit for flectcher to be back i will trust him !
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  • 29 Jun 2012 5:27 PM

    Re: fletcher cant be trusted

    el diablo:
    His illness doesn't come and go in a matter of minutes, smh. The situation is this. He's recovering now, trying to build himself up again, and then he'll try to get his match fitness back, which will be a huge struggle and probably take months of hard graft. And he'll probably get frequent muscle injuries during training because he's been off for so long his muscles will have wasted. And if by some miracle he does get back to match fitness, he's at the whim of his illness, which will never go away. It is almost certain to flare up again at some point, and then he'll be back to square one. His cysts will come back, he won't be able to eat, he'll have a torrid time on the toilet, he'll lose loads of weight and will be out for another 8 months.
    my god, didn't realize this was the storywith his illness,i always taught once he nail it he'd be ok.im sure we will see another signin or someone from the youth comin into are midfield.feel so sorry for fletch now,fairplay to SIR for givin him every chance in keepin him about.try get well soon fletch are hopes and praise is with you bud...
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  • 29 Jun 2012 5:22 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    forever united94:
    Im sorry to say this but imo we cant trust fletcher anymore. He has been great for us and always gives his all but unfortunetly his illness will never go away. Just say he comes back and plays well during the season but in april when we are going for the title we are drawing 1-1 with 10 minutes left and need to win. Suddenly the team were playing go on a counter attack and fletcher's illness suddenly comes on strongly and he cant get back and it costs us the game an ultimately the title. How would you feel its not his fault but people will still blame him. My point is you never know when his illness will strike and for that reason we cant trust him. Its sad because he is one of my favourite players.
    do you know excatly what the story is with fletch,im sure SIR will make that decision if he can't shake his illness off.but i'd defo give him the benifit of the doubt..to me fletch is a old style player,the kind of player imo thats needed for that DM role,a player who's not afraid to get stuck in.....
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  • 29 Jun 2012 4:38 PM

    Re: fletcher cant be trusted

    His illness doesn't come and go in a matter of minutes, smh. The situation is this. He's recovering now, trying to build himself up again, and then he'll try to get his match fitness back, which will be a huge struggle and probably take months of hard graft. And he'll probably get frequent muscle injuries during training because he's been off for so long his muscles will have wasted. And if by some miracle he does get back to match fitness, he's at the whim of his illness, which will never go away. It is almost certain to flare up again at some point, and then he'll be back to square one. His cysts will come back, he won't be able to eat, he'll have a torrid time on the toilet, he'll lose loads of weight and will be out for another 8 months.
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  • 29 Jun 2012 3:19 PM

    Re: fletcher cant be trusted

    pele 10:
    Nibor1:
    Don't like your title one bit! The poor man is ill FFS...Here is another scenario: Fletcher manages his illness and scores the winner in the last game of the season... handing us the title.

    Sounds way better than your doom and gloom post!

    That´s what I like about you Nibor1 always the suttle approach. I like your scenario way better to.
    Hi Pele 10...Thanks. The title of the post really annoyed me...I had two sides of the bed to get out of this morning and it appears that I chose the wrong one...again!

    Have a great weekend.

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  • 29 Jun 2012 3:16 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    I dont think any of us knew he had this illness before it was anounced [is it spelt like that,getting old] He played his heart out for us as usual untill it was said he had a virus, so I will trust Fletch. to play as he does for us and score many more of those great goals. As for letting us down in any game he hasnt done that since he joined as a kid. hurry back Fletch. I cant wait.
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  • 29 Jun 2012 1:43 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    I dont trust the OP he must be sick in the head
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  • 29 Jun 2012 1:22 PM

    Re: fletcher's illness cant be trusted

    forever united94:
    Im sorry to say this but imo we cant trust fletcher anymore. He has been great for us and always gives his all but unfortunetly his illness will never go away. Just say he comes back and plays well during the season but in april when we are going for the title we are drawing 1-1 with 10 minutes left and need to win. Suddenly the team were playing go on a counter attack and fletcher's illness suddenly comes on strongly and he cant get back and it costs us the game an ultimately the title. How would you feel its not his fault but people will still blame him. My point is you never know when his illness will strike and for that reason we cant trust him. Its sad because he is one of my favourite players.
    That won`t happen at all? Do you know what Ulcerative Colitis is? Thats what I think Fletcher has? It is an unpredictable condition, I know my wife has it. But for the last 3 years she`s been pretty Ok. I think the scenario you mentioned is over the top. He would feel Ill well before something like that would happen. But sadly for him it`s a condition that might not go away. My wife manages it through a diet, there are some foods that can not be eaten, and Alcohol is a gamble a few drinks could spark it off and when the bleeding starts from the lower region to say it wont stop untill you iether go into hospital or the medication works? but even after that you are unwell for Months???? its a bad condition and i suppose some people will suffer badly than others, and it sounds like Fletcher has it bad. wish all the best with it
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  • 29 Jun 2012 1:18 PM

    Re: fletcher cant be trusted

    In any case even if he gets about fit again he shouldn't be involved in United before being on loan for atleast half a year on some lower level or reserves to prove his ability to play. Fletchers game is like mentioned before all about endurance and ability to run a lot and if that takes a hit and it very likely has taken a big one there isn't much left in his game. Just being realistic here and choosing perhaps almost fit Fletcher to play against some other player is an insult to the whole team no matter how liked player he is. Basically Fletchers career has to be more or less on starting level and he has to prove he can still perform at top level constantly. Really can't see it as an option to take Fletcher as part time player like Scholes and Giggs will obviously be. Building so big part of central midfield on way too old or any ways very unreliable players is very bad idea. Anyway if he can make it he shouldn't aim for the top level instantly for his own sake either. Extreme conditioning what playing at United demands can't be the best way to return to for him. Take it slow and start with lower level and see if you can make it...
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