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  • 16 Jul 2009 8:38 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    leighmanc:

    Josie17:

    leighmanc:
    is it just a coincidence that both anderson and nani didn't have as good as 2nd season as the first without carlos queiroz (who was responsible in the 2 players coming to united) along side ferguson?

     

    And is it a coincidence that Ronaldo won the World Player of the Year award with Manchester United WITHOUT Carlos Queiroz? and by the way Anderson is brazilian not portugese. No Anderson and Nani are good players and they will get their chance to prove themselves this coming season.



    ronaldo won the player of the year pretty much based on how he performed in the 2007/2008 (just like how messi is going to win player of the year based pretty much on how he did during the 2008/2009 season) the season when queiroz was there.

    queiroz picked up on anderson and nani when they was both playing in the portugese league at the time and let's face the brazil and portugese culture are not world's apart are they.

     

    Portuguese is spoken in Brazil, hence the close friendship between Ronaldo and Anderson ( Ando spoke no English when he arrived, and forged a friendship with Ronaldo)

    I agree, Queiroz was a major influence, Anderson even said in an interview last year that he struggled to understand ferguson. Ronaldo going probably isnt going to help.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 8:07 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    leighmanc:

    Josie17:

    leighmanc:
    is it just a coincidence that both anderson and nani didn't have as good as 2nd season as the first without carlos queiroz (who was responsible in the 2 players coming to united) along side ferguson?

     

    And is it a coincidence that Ronaldo won the World Player of the Year award with Manchester United WITHOUT Carlos Queiroz? and by the way Anderson is brazilian not portugese. No Anderson and Nani are good players and they will get their chance to prove themselves this coming season.



    ronaldo won the player of the year pretty much based on how he performed in the 2007/2008 (just like how messi is going to win player of the year based pretty much on how he did during the 2008/2009 season) the season when queiroz was there.

    queiroz picked up on anderson and nani when they was both playing in the portugese league at the time and let's face the brazil and portugese culture are not world's apart are they.

    Very true. Queiroz's influence did affect these players when he was there and yes brazil and portugal aren't that far away but i don't think its just a coincidence that all of these players would just suddenly start playing poorly (including Ronaldo if you compare him to the 07/08 season) but I though Anderson did well last season. Nani, not so much. call me skeptical lol Geeked

    I'm starting to think that SAF is buying the "young player" philosophy of Wenger but he is perfecting it more by bringing in more experienced players to help out the future stars. Hopefully it works out and we can have a greater team than we had last season.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 8:07 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    BigRooney10:
    ronaldo was a striker

     

    First: Since when Ronaldo is a striker?

    BigRooney10:
    carrick and anderson are terrible. nani is poor and park is a backup player he shouldnt be first choice. tosic and obertan are for the future but can be used as back up so we dont really have a left winger.

    This doesn't deserve any comment.

    BigRooney10:
    i am hoping for young on the left.

     

    We must pay 30 mil. pounds for him if we want him. Pretty unlikely.

    BigRooney10:
    up top we have one of the best players in the world(rooney) as well as the perfect backup in owen who could also be first choice.

     

    This is true.

    BigRooney10:
    get rid of nani as well. berba is too inneffective for me

     

    Very wrong!

    Just my opinion.

     

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  • 16 Jul 2009 8:04 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    ronaldo may have had more assists, because he was playing with better strikers but valencia had a higher percentage of, passes, dribbles and crosses completed, so the service should be better.  as for the guy who said ronaldo wasnt a winger he was a striker, catch a grip, how many games did you watch ronaldo play in?

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  • 16 Jul 2009 8:03 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    couple of things

    anderson had a good season in my book considering hes an attacking mid playing in a defensive position once he starts scoring everyone who doubts him will start to love him

    ronaldo might of got more assists then valencia but how many more chances do man utd make then wigan did hes gonna have so many assists next season relentlessly whipping in balls for berba rooney and owen

    and nani has all the potential in the world he just needs to get a decent run of games behind him i think he will step up now ronaldo gone as theres noone left on the team to compare him with and i did compare him to ronaldo but i think if nani had as many games behind him hed be as good as ronaldo

    we dont need another striker cos then welbeck or macheda wouldnt get a look in and plus we have giggs orbetan who can play up top also and if we get rooney berba and owen all injured at the same time thats sum bad luck and highly unlikly and i think macheda and welbeck would love the chance for some steady runs in the first team i think welbeck is gonna see a fair bit of first team action this season if not how does sir alex think he will break into the england team?

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  • 16 Jul 2009 7:59 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    BigRooney10:

    ronaldo was a striker and valencia is not his replacement he is a proper winger (which is good), carrick and anderson are terrible. nani is poor and park is a backup player he shouldnt be first choice. tosic and obertan are for the future but can be used as back up so we dont really have a left winger. i am hoping for young on the left. i would also like costa for the future.

    up top we have one of the best players in the world(rooney) as well as the perfect backup in owen who could also be first choice. although he is our ony height i would still replace berba with aguero and get rid of nani as well. berba is too inneffective for me.

     

    No, Ronaldo was a winger / right midfielder. I don't see how you can say Carrick and Anderson are terrible either...you obviously don't know anything about football.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 7:56 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    BigRooney10:

    ronaldo was a striker and valencia is not his replacement he is a proper winger (which is good), carrick and anderson are terrible. nani is poor and park is a backup player he shouldnt be first choice. tosic and obertan are for the future but can be used as back up so we dont really have a left winger. i am hoping for young on the left. i would also like costa for the future.

    up top we have one of the best players in the world(rooney) as well as the perfect backup in owen who could also be first choice. although he is our ony height i would still replace berba with aguero and get rid of nani as well. berba is too inneffective for me.

    Valencia will give more chances to Rooney and Macheda to score.

    Carrick has to have stable form

    Anderson is the future of MAN UTD and Brazil.

    Nani, he is very good when we attack but defensively he is poor. If he only go back like the rest of the players and start defending well, he will be a shining star.

    Park is always good. Yes he doesn't score a lot of goals, but remember all the defensive and attacking participations he has last season.

     There is no excuse for Berba this season. He already has 3 seasons in EPL and played the whole last season with MAN UTD, so he should show his muscles this season.

    This season is Macheda's season, as well as Valencia and Anderson.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 7:54 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    Josie17:

    leighmanc:
    is it just a coincidence that both anderson and nani didn't have as good as 2nd season as the first without carlos queiroz (who was responsible in the 2 players coming to united) along side ferguson?

     

    And is it a coincidence that Ronaldo won the World Player of the Year award with Manchester United WITHOUT Carlos Queiroz? and by the way Anderson is brazilian not portugese. No Anderson and Nani are good players and they will get their chance to prove themselves this coming season.



    ronaldo won the player of the year pretty much based on how he performed in the 2007/2008 (just like how messi is going to win player of the year based pretty much on how he did during the 2008/2009 season) the season when queiroz was there.

    queiroz picked up on anderson and nani when they was both playing in the portugese league at the time and let's face the brazil and portugese culture are not world's apart are they.
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  • 16 Jul 2009 7:37 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    leighmanc:
    is it just a coincidence that both anderson and nani didn't have as good as 2nd season as the first without carlos queiroz (who was responsible in the 2 players coming to united) along side ferguson?

     

    And is it a coincidence that Ronaldo won the World Player of the Year award with Manchester United WITHOUT Carlos Queiroz? and by the way Anderson is brazilian not portugese. No Anderson and Nani are good players and they will get their chance to prove themselves this coming season.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 7:27 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    rooney_d_reddevil:

    Guys Guys Guys........Why should we sign players only because the world has gone crazy buyin players..

    We have replacement for Ronaldo in form of Valencia..I kno he is not even close to Ronny, but think of it, he is better at given assists which will help Berba N Rooney score more goals than they did wilth Ronaldo.So we will end up scorin same amount of goals when with ronaldo..and the attacking bench is very strong with Owen, Welbeck & Macheda

    Nani is just a classy player and not SAF can afford the luxary of Nani a winger weak in back tracking cause Valancia works hard and Nani so can afford a much better advanced role like ronaldo.We also have Tosic and the work horse Park.

    Anderson has grown wonderfully as a player last season so has carrick...now dont mention the UEFA final it was just a bad day no one performed well that day...Well and the growth of Fletcher i need not mention...

    Last and the best i can say it without a doubt that WE HAVE THE BEST DEFENCE IN THE WORLD.

    We have a team ready i think its better to wait and sign quality players lik Kun when market cools down...

    Wel plz give your opinions.....



    actually ronaldo had more assists than valencia did last season
     
    the european cup performance wasn't a one off performance

    also is it just a coincidence that both anderson and nani didn't have as good as 2nd season as the first without carlos queiroz (who was responsible in the 2 players coming to united) along side ferguson?
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  • 16 Jul 2009 7:10 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    Great post.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 7:09 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    Well done mate:

    Maybe we don't need another signing...

    STRIKERS: ROONEY BERBA OWEN WELBECK MACHEDA

    WINGERS: NANI OBERTAN (GIGGS) VALENCIA TOSIC

    MIDS: (GIGGS) CARRICK SCHOLES ANDERSON HARGREAVES FLETCHER GIBSON POSSEBON

    DEFENCE: VIDIC FERDINAND EVRA NEVILLE RAFEAL O'SHEA EVANS BROWN

    GOALKEEPER: VDS FOSTER KUSACK

    So maybe we don't need another sighning or maybe we could do with a forward. But anyway theres ages ago we could sighn someone and if we don't we wont be dissapointed as thats what FERGIE said. We should be excited.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 6:42 PM

    Re: Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    ronaldo was a striker and valencia is not his replacement he is a proper winger (which is good), carrick and anderson are terrible. nani is poor and park is a backup player he shouldnt be first choice. tosic and obertan are for the future but can be used as back up so we dont really have a left winger. i am hoping for young on the left. i would also like costa for the future.

    up top we have one of the best players in the world(rooney) as well as the perfect backup in owen who could also be first choice. although he is our ony height i would still replace berba with aguero and get rid of nani as well. berba is too inneffective for me.

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  • 16 Jul 2009 6:11 PM

    Transfer Crazy?...Just read this once and give it a thought...

    Guys Guys Guys........Why should we sign players only because the world has gone crazy buyin players..

    We have replacement for Ronaldo in form of Valencia..I kno he is not even close to Ronny, but think of it, he is better at given assists which will help Berba N Rooney score more goals than they did wilth Ronaldo.So we will end up scorin same amount of goals when with ronaldo..and the attacking bench is very strong with Owen, Welbeck & Macheda

    Nani is just a classy player and not SAF can afford the luxary of Nani a winger weak in back tracking cause Valancia works hard and Nani so can afford a much better advanced role like ronaldo.We also have Tosic and the work horse Park.

    Anderson has grown wonderfully as a player last season so has carrick...now dont mention the UEFA final it was just a bad day no one performed well that day...Well and the growth of Fletcher i need not mention...

    Last and the best i can say it without a doubt that WE HAVE THE BEST DEFENCE IN THE WORLD.

    We have a team ready i think its better to wait and sign quality players lik Kun when market cools down...

    Wel plz give your opinions.....

    Reply
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