I dont understand why he was taken off! macheda should have been taken off, his touch was shite loan him out. Nani puts me on the edge of my sit, fair enough most times it doesnt come off. But that is football. Ronaldo had a better shot playing every game since he came AND PEOPLE BOOED HIM. WHY? because nobody knew when a cross was coming in etc Alan smith lost the head at him alot. Eventually he got it right with game time. Nani is only 22 by the time hes 32 id say hel be close to giggsys record Mark my words.You really think SAF would risk selling him when its clear he has potental NO CHANCE!

Desmond Koo:

You guys are just making a scape goat out of him, hoping SAF to get rid of Nani and make room for David Silva , right ?

 

NO!

I don't like Silva at all....so you are wrong

If Nani has been as bad as you guys said, so are Rooney , Berbatov and so on ....

You guys are just making a scape goat out of him, hoping SAF to get rid of Nani and make room for David Silva , right ?

believe me you don't want to lose Nani to other clubs ...

clarendonman:

During the CSKA game I made a comment that Owen's brain was a half second ahead of his body and that Nani's body was 2 seconds ahead of his brain.

 

I think he is running out of chances - he had a really good chance to cement his place in the team this season but after a promising start he seems to have gone of the boil. I think he could be potnetially playing for his future over the coming weeks and i think he needs to improve and i have been one of his biggest fans since we signed him!

clarendonman:

During the CSKA game I made a comment that Owen's brain was a half second ahead of his body and that Nani's body was 2 seconds ahead of his brain. With Owen you can see he knows exactly what position to be in and that he has thought about his next move long before he gets/plays the ball. Unfortunately his aging/unfit body will not allow him to do the things he'd like (and unfortunately it is also creeping in to Scholes' game as well). With Nani, his body is more than capable of pulling off almost any feat on the football field (I still think he has as much raw talent as Cristiano). It's his head that I worry about. I'm not trying to suggest he's not smart, but there's a term called the footballing brain which refers to a player's gift of knowing what to do on the pitch. I'm sure we all know a few daft characters who could create magic on a football field.

So in Nani's case he gets the ball and then there's a pause, it's clear that he's not sure what to do next. So he stops, turns, darts, looks around, cuts in, cuts back, step over, etc. (more often than not a combination of all of these). Then he ends up seeing the ball heading the opposite way because the defender has stolen it off him and Berba's in a perfect position in the box, where the ball should have been, screaming his head off. Then to make matters worse, this same slow thought process starts over before he realises he needs to track back and do some defending because Evra's now got to deal with the winger and the defender that had stolen the ball.

He's clearly suffering under the weight of expectation following Ronaldo's departure. The game against Stoke, where Sir Alex seemed to almost want to take him off the pitch by his ear, should have been his wake up call. Giggs came on and displayed clearly to him what he should have been doing. I think there have been slight improvements since that game, but nothing to make me feel comfortable. His chances will become increasingly less frequent when Giggs is fit and with Obertan's displays demanding Sir Alex's attention. If the rumours are true about Silva and Villa, then he'll be gone, maybe in an exchange. But his only hope is that SAF's belief in young players despite public criticism (Fletcher, O'Shea, Wes) will keep him in the squad. We need a large squad and Gigg's can only last so long.

I'd like to see him stay and improve his game, but I fear he's not a big club player and might end up like Tim Howard shining at a smaller club where the expectations are less.

 Well I should have seen your post before writing mine... pretty much spot on!!

Adstar:

Perhaps it is indecision, not knowing when to take a player on, pass or shoot.

 You first say you don't know whats holding him back and then you give almost the right answer in the very next line... I dunno why ppl rave about his technichal capapbilities... half the game of a great football player depends on how good he is mentally and face it, Nani is faaaaar from good enough with the footballing brain he has. I mean no disrespect to him, but not everyone- no matter how far he can score a goal from- is blessed with the kinda intelligence the likes of Rooney n Ronaldo have (yes there was a time when I doubted ronaldo's brains too, but he was just too good when it came to finding his ways to score goals- lot more than just 30 yard screamers). So to come to a conclusion hes not intelligent enough to be a Manchester United player, can be useful deep into the season as hes not that bad a player to call upon but he'll be much better off plying his trade at a smaller club. How many clubs really wanted him when he was playing at Sporting anyway??

   Though red irish point about relegating him to reserves for a while is right, I doubt if Nani will ever be able to convince those who saw a lot of promise in him 2 years ago....

During the CSKA game I made a comment that Owen's brain was a half second ahead of his body and that Nani's body was 2 seconds ahead of his brain. With Owen you can see he knows exactly what position to be in and that he has thought about his next move long before he gets/plays the ball. Unfortunately his aging/unfit body will not allow him to do the things he'd like (and unfortunately it is also creeping in to Scholes' game as well). With Nani, his body is more than capable of pulling off almost any feat on the football field (I still think he has as much raw talent as Cristiano). It's his head that I worry about. I'm not trying to suggest he's not smart, but there's a term called the footballing brain which refers to a player's gift of knowing what to do on the pitch. I'm sure we all know a few daft characters who could create magic on a football field.

So in Nani's case he gets the ball and then there's a pause, it's clear that he's not sure what to do next. So he stops, turns, darts, looks around, cuts in, cuts back, step over, etc. (more often than not a combination of all of these). Then he ends up seeing the ball heading the opposite way because the defender has stolen it off him and Berba's in a perfect position in the box, where the ball should have been, screaming his head off. Then to make matters worse, this same slow thought process starts over before he realises he needs to track back and do some defending because Evra's now got to deal with the winger and the defender that had stolen the ball.

He's clearly suffering under the weight of expectation following Ronaldo's departure. The game against Stoke, where Sir Alex seemed to almost want to take him off the pitch by his ear, should have been his wake up call. Giggs came on and displayed clearly to him what he should have been doing. I think there have been slight improvements since that game, but nothing to make me feel comfortable. His chances will become increasingly less frequent when Giggs is fit and with Obertan's displays demanding Sir Alex's attention. If the rumours are true about Silva and Villa, then he'll be gone, maybe in an exchange. But his only hope is that SAF's belief in young players despite public criticism (Fletcher, O'Shea, Wes) will keep him in the squad. We need a large squad and Gigg's can only last so long.

I'd like to see him stay and improve his game, but I fear he's not a big club player and might end up like Tim Howard shining at a smaller club where the expectations are less.

He's playing with purpose and in the last few games, he's done better. Obertan will eventually replace him or perhaps even Tosic. Nani knows this and you can see that his game's improving. Only a few goals to score and he'll get his confidence back.

 I think Nani is getting hes a gamble at the moment selling him could be a mistake.

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 i hope your right he might be trying to hard at the moment ?

can anyone tell me whats happened to Tosic

red irish:

Amada15:

We should loan him  to a club like Valencia or Aletico Madrid before we sell him.

 

No, he should get a little stint in the reserves at this stage, if he went down there he might score a few which will bring his confidence up abit, he might come back a new player as a result.

Andersons little spell in the reservel did wonders for him, & many thought he was gone too, especially after his little spat with Sir Alex, things could not have looked any worse for the lad. Thank god he's the better of it now.

yea, I remeber that, Anderson got Sosjkear approval and after that Anderson became a new player and is doing well for our first team.

Nani should, get dropped to the reserve team, until he gets his confidence back.

I do think it is time to let Nani move on, this is not a brief lapse in form he has never really produced for Man Utd, he has had 4 years and has shown little to no improvement, maybe he's just not meant 4 us, perhaps Spain would suit him better and he could up his game.  Meanwhile we have others who deserve their shot, and despite my dislike and criticism of him i have been thus far more impressed with obertan, and as another poster mentioned where is tosic?

Amada15:

We should loan him  to a club like Valencia or Aletico Madrid before we sell him.

 

No, he should get a little stint in the reserves at this stage, if he went down there he might score a few which will bring his confidence up abit, he might come back a new player as a result.

Andersons little spell in the reservel did wonders for him, & many thought he was gone too, especially after his little spat with Sir Alex, things could not have looked any worse for the lad. Thank god he's the better of it now.